Incidental Expences (IE) Allowance Change

#1
Im aware the new IE allowance has changed back to its old guise from the 1st April 2010. Only difference being we can now claim the flat $5 (I realise its the dollar sign but my keyboards playing up.... Its means pounds) for the first 30 days.

IE is to pay back for phone calls and newpaper and laundry etc.

Would it be ..."acceptable" in terms of an audit to produce shopping recipits with washing powder highlighted (as washing machines are provided).

20p for newspapers im not really bothered about.

But in terms of a 3 minute phone call, Payphones dont issue recipits and phonecard phoneboxs have either been firebombed or decomissioned. So is it reasonable to claim back the cost on mobile phone bills as mil network phones wont let me access an outside line. Obviously i'll have an itemised mobile bill ready incase of audit.

I also take it i'd be allowed to pool my minutes, so 3 mins a day is so small, i can have an half an hour phone call every 10 days etc.


Any ideas or evidence to shoot my thoughts down in flames welcome.


WWC
 
#2
IE is £5 flat rate UK

£10 flat rate overseas.

The 30 day rule just means that you claim at least every 29 days on JPA otherwise it isnt authorised on JPA and you will be automatically audited. In other words you can claim for as long as you incur the expense but ensure you dont go more than 29 days without inputting your claim.

If you are unable to provide a receipt just sign a statement explaining why (as in phone calls) and keep with the rest of your receipts for the 2 year period in case you are audited.

You will also need any admin order relating to the claim as authority on JPA anyway.
 

Legs

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#3
InVinoVeritas said:
IE is £5 flat rate UK

£10 flat rate overseas.

The 30 day rule just means that you claim at least every 29 days on JPA otherwise it isnt authorised on JPA and you will be automatically audited. In other words you can claim for as long as you incur the expense but ensure you dont go more than 29 days without inputting your claim.

If you are unable to provide a receipt just sign a statement explaining why (as in phone calls) and keep with the rest of your receipts for the 2 year period in case you are audited.

You will also need any admin order relating to the claim as authority on JPA anyway.
Not any more. As of 1st April it is £5 wherever you are.
 
#4
Legs said:
InVinoVeritas said:
IE is £5 flat rate UK

£10 flat rate overseas.

The 30 day rule just means that you claim at least every 29 days on JPA otherwise it isnt authorised on JPA and you will be automatically audited. In other words you can claim for as long as you incur the expense but ensure you dont go more than 29 days without inputting your claim.

If you are unable to provide a receipt just sign a statement explaining why (as in phone calls) and keep with the rest of your receipts for the 2 year period in case you are audited.

You will also need any admin order relating to the claim as authority on JPA anyway.
Not any more. As of 1st April it is £5 wherever you are.
Oh great! Something else they have "stealth shafted" us on. The next thing will be them saying that IE pays for your food in PAYD establishments! (which appears to be the normal bleat when we pads gripe about paying for food when on detached duty):x
 
#5
Legs said:
InVinoVeritas said:
IE is £5 flat rate UK

£10 flat rate overseas.

The 30 day rule just means that you claim at least every 29 days on JPA otherwise it isnt authorised on JPA and you will be automatically audited. In other words you can claim for as long as you incur the expense but ensure you dont go more than 29 days without inputting your claim.

If you are unable to provide a receipt just sign a statement explaining why (as in phone calls) and keep with the rest of your receipts for the 2 year period in case you are audited.

You will also need any admin order relating to the claim as authority on JPA anyway.
Not any more. As of 1st April it is £5 wherever you are.
That stops one of the old inconsistencies of IE. If you are Germany based you could only claim £5 a day for a UK course even though you were having to pay international rates for phone calls home, but could claim £10 a day for being somewhere else in Germany and only paying for national rate calls.
 
#6
As the daily rate is £5.00 and there's no requirement to supply a receipt unless its over £5.00 - what's the problem?
 
#7
Flying Felix said:
As the daily rate is £5.00 and there's no requirement to supply a receipt unless its over £5.00 - what's the problem?
Agreed, they take your word for it that you spent a fiver a day on a paper, Laundry and a phone call. No proof required, which is just as well in the majority of cases as really it was mainly beer tokens.
 
#9
working_with_choppers said:
My main point is that I'm on a 6 month course which misses being posted by 3 days! So I actually end up with 5 months ineligibilty for IE.

WWC
Then surely you will be getting either LSA or GYH(M)?
 
#11
Are you still allowed to claim IE as temp staff attatched to BATUS?
 
#12
Flying Felix said:
As the daily rate is £5.00 and there's no requirement to supply a receipt unless its over £5.00 - what's the problem?
The problem is we are being ripped off on phone calls when overseas.. w*nkers!!
 
#13
On 1 Apr 10 IEs became a flat rate for both overseas and UK, they were aslo capped at 30 days WEF 1 Apr 10. The last day to claim the old £10 oversea rate and days in excess of 30 days was 31 Mar 10. IEs are non receiptable.
 
#14
working_with_choppers said:
Im aware the new IE allowance has changed back to its old guise from the 1st April 2010. Only difference being we can now claim the flat $5 (I realise its the dollar sign but my keyboards playing up.... Its means pounds) for the first 30 days.

IE is to pay back for phone calls and newpaper and laundry etc.

Would it be ..."acceptable" in terms of an audit to produce shopping recipits with washing powder highlighted (as washing machines are provided).

20p for newspapers im not really bothered about.

But in terms of a 3 minute phone call, Payphones dont issue recipits and phonecard phoneboxs have either been firebombed or decomissioned. So is it reasonable to claim back the cost on mobile phone bills as mil network phones wont let me access an outside line. Obviously i'll have an itemised mobile bill ready incase of audit.

I also take it i'd be allowed to pool my minutes, so 3 mins a day is so small, i can have an half an hour phone call every 10 days etc.


Any ideas or evidence to shoot my thoughts down in flames welcome.


WWC
Darling, get yourself a tissue, nobody said it would be easy.

Did you sign the bit for the Army, or the RAF?

Just asking like. You big girl. Man up.
 
#15
InVinoVeritas said:
Flying Felix said:
As the daily rate is £5.00 and there's no requirement to supply a receipt unless its over £5.00 - what's the problem?
The problem is we are being ripped off on phone calls when overseas.. w*nkers!!
You can man up as well, blossom.

Feel free to bring it on. I care not.

You whinging feckers.
 
#16
BarryBuddon said:
On 1 Apr 10 IEs became a flat rate for both overseas and UK, they were aslo capped at 30 days WEF 1 Apr 10. The last day to claim the old £10 oversea rate and days in excess of 30 days was 31 Mar 10. IEs are non receiptable.

I saw that as well on the briefing note as well, so does that mean if I am on a two month course or non-exercising detachment that after the first month I no longer need to call home or wash my clothes anymore? If anything surely the need would increase after a longer period away.
 
#17
get yerself a vodaphone sim then, flat rate all over the world, people complained that papers etc in the NAAFI were too expensivem hence they dropped the price, ergo, IE drops.

LOA will no doubt go next
 

Legs

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#18
BIPOLAR77 said:
get yerself a vodaphone sim then, flat rate all over the world, people complained that papers etc in the NAAFI were too expensivem hence they dropped the price, ergo, IE drops.

LOA will no doubt go next
From what I've heard, you are closer to the truth than you think...
 
#19
naked_mole_rat said:
BarryBuddon said:
On 1 Apr 10 IEs became a flat rate for both overseas and UK, they were aslo capped at 30 days WEF 1 Apr 10. The last day to claim the old £10 oversea rate and days in excess of 30 days was 31 Mar 10. IEs are non receiptable.

I saw that as well on the briefing note as well, so does that mean if I am on a two month course or non-exercising detachment that after the first month I no longer need to call home or wash my clothes anymore? If anything surely the need would increase after a longer period away.
well if you are going to wash your clothes daily? that seems excessive, else use a free internet facility?
 
#20
Legs said:
BIPOLAR77 said:
get yerself a vodaphone sim then, flat rate all over the world, people complained that papers etc in the NAAFI were too expensivem hence they dropped the price, ergo, IE drops.

LOA will no doubt go next
From what I've heard, you are closer to the truth than you think...
Not seen anything myself? what have you heard?
 

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