In the Navy......

#1
Can any matelot types answer me a simple question.

I know the Senior service have many different dress "rigs"

This weekend I was at an army camp, there were some Navy types there doing what appeared to be fire training and first aid, yearly stuff I imagine.

Anyway, they were all dressed in what I imagine is working dress, dark blue shirt and dark blue/black trousers.

What intrigued us was that non of them wore belts, now even the RAF wear belts.

So is this part of their working dress not to wear a belt, is it health and safety in case it gets stuck on a submarine emergency off switch or what ?

Or is there a blatent lack of belts in the senior service bought about by those penny pinching lackeys in number 10 ?????
 
#4
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
 
#5
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.
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Cheers Matey :p


No whinge about standard of dress, we just wondered and assumed it was the snag thing !
 

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#6
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
What he said.

It is also worth remembering that it's not just the Army that has it's own rules for allyness and fashion when in rig.

During my seafaring days it was considered particularly 'de-rigour' to have your name written in tip ex on the back of your 'steaming bats' (boots), your collar turned inside out whilst wearing overalls, and a sharp 'bullshit' crease ironed horizontally accross your back. Whilst this may seem strange to outsiders, remember there are some members of the Army who waste a large amount of effort (not to mention cash) deliberately altering their uniform for the sake of alleyness.
 
#7
Yeah, from my limited experience with the senior service, they seem to have similar dress standards when on land, or in port, but the second they are out to sea, well, anything goes, very much wearing what is comfortable and good for the job, including the almost universal dropping of headdress.
 

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#8
CrownImperial said:
Yeah, from my limited experience with the senior service, they seem to have similar dress standards when on land, or in port, but the second they are out to sea, well, anything goes, very much wearing what is comfortable and good for the job, including the almost universal dropping of headdress.
Correct.

Headdress is never worn between decks or indoors and once you are at sea the ship is essentially an airfield so head gear is considered a FOD hazard. You also have to take into account that there is one ironing board per mess so for 50 lads to iron their kit everyday just isn't going to happen. However it is surprising how everyone manages to iron their civvies in record time as soon as you get alongside!
 

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#9
Is it true that you navy chaps have about 8 different uniforms depending on the occasion?
 
#10
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.
Your right it's not or is the fat Navy cnut I work with just a fat lazy barsteward who thinks 'iron' is just a form of metal! I think he wears it though as it's the only uniform he's got that fits him as the rest of the Navy contingent here wear No3 dress! And all he does is moan that he's not been promoted! 'I've been a CPO for 20 years now, blah, blah' Fnuck of fat lazy cnut!

Bad press for the Navy. That's it rant over!
 
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#12
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
What happened to No 8's?

And No. 1's as worn by senior officers and admirals?

And No 4 shirts with detachable collars?

And, in fact, winged collars. Are those still issued?

And dashing, Tom Cruise style 'ice cream suit' tropical kit instead of those bloody awful safari suits?

And drill boots with smooth soles that you can use for skating even when there's no ice?

And SLRs?

And Bofors guns?

And WWI surplus mines?

And flogging?

And biscuits with weevils in them?

Dear God, it's all gone down hill since I left.
 
#14
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
Now then, boyo, what the fcuk would you know about going to sea? :D
This is the normal rig we wore on Orient 92...

 
#15
Ancient_Mariner said:
And drill boots with smooth soles that you can use for skating even when there's no ice?
They were a real joy on the highly polished floors at Dartmouth until you got them scuffed up. Watching the new intake taking corners at speed was always a good spectator sport.
 
#16
Ancient_Mariner said:
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
What happened to No 8's?

And No. 1's as worn by senior officers and admirals?

And No 4 shirts with detachable collars?

And, in fact, winged collars. Are those still issued?

And dashing, Tom Cruise style 'ice cream suit' tropical kit instead of those bloody awful safari suits?

And drill boots with smooth soles that you can use for skating even when there's no ice?

And SLRs?

And Bofors guns?

And WWI surplus mines?

And flogging?

And biscuits with weevils in them?

Dear God, it's all gone down hill since I left.
... And Lanchesters - great little gun
 
#17
the_matelot said:
What you seen is called No4's and it is Improved Action Working Dress (IAWD). No, you do not wear a belt with it-it is a potential snagging hazard going down ladders/through hatches onboard. It is a (supposed) fire retardant uniform.

It's not designed to be a smart uniform-it has a purpose and that is to be worn onboard.

Shoreside, ratings wear No3's which is white shirt and black trousers with a belt.
Best not serve with a Signals mob then... you'll be badged up, ironed up and startched to fcuk within the first week. And belted.

Wont mean you any good at your job, but you'll smart doing it :D
 
#18
I wear always wore a belt with 4s (thats why they have belt loops). according to a reggy I asked, there is no policy to say wether belts should be worn or not. So, in the fleet at least, belts are optional, seems sensible enough.
 

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