In Memory of LCpl J Lawrence & LCpl T Gill

#1
I am currently serving in Bosnia and have found a plaque bearing a RAMC capbadge with the inscription in memory of LCpl Gill and LCpl Lawrence. Does anyone out there have any info on these guys? It would be a shame to leave the plaque without having it mounted anywhere if it was to honour two of our guys that have passed away. Some say that they both served at some time in 5 Fd Amb, Preston. Please send info if you have any. Thanks
 
#3
I served in Bosnia in 97/98 and I am pretty sure the RTA that involved the two soldiers was the tour before ours so it must have been in 97 but not one hundered percent sure as my memory is fading with age. Ventress may know as I am pretty sure he was serving in Sipovo at the same time as I was in Bosnia ?
 
#6
I was Jason Lawrences room mate for a couple of years at 2 Armd Fd amb and spent alot of time with him on leave in UK and was in the firing party at his funeral. He was killed on 23rd June 1998 which ironically is the 100th anniversary of the RAMC.He was killed in an rta involving a 432 rolling. Although I didn't know Tammy, I was posted to 5 GS in 2002 and came across people who spoke highly of her.

It's comforting to know that after almost 8 years a plaque is still in place that remembers Jason and Tammy.
 

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#7
I recall the RTA at Kamensco(??) and the FV432 tragedy at Sanski Most. I think the RTA involved a Bedford and Land Rover.

Maybe a fitting resting place for the plaque would be 5GSMR in Preston. Maybe.
 
#8
There is a plaque in the chapel in Fulwood Barrack and a certificate in the cookhouse entrance explaining that two trees have beed are planted in memory of these two soldiers. A wreath is layed by the plaque (in the RAMC window) on 11 Nov each year along with one for another soldier who died more recently whilst serving with 5 GS Med Regt.
Both soldiers are still regarded very highly by members of the unit who knew and served with them.
 

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#9
Nice to see 5GS have a Rememberance in place.

Does 1CSMR continue with the Preston Cup, which remembers Pte Kenny Preston Killed on the RFA Galahad in June 1982.(Along with Major Roger Nutbeem and LCpl Scouse Farrell) 3 Armd Fd Amb had a competion yearly, or has that lapsed?
 
#10
I remember the Preston Cup from my 3 Armd days. I don't think that it is still happening. I'd be delighted to be wrong.

When I left 1 CS, A Sqn were still playing the Kenny Mac cup with the Ace Fife Man ofthe Match award during Corps week. I played in that match 5 times and always ended up getting beat!
 
#11
I remember that RTA, I was on shift up at Banja Luka when the message came in, I think one of the lads wasn't wearing his tags and there was problem recognising them
 
#12
I was on that tour with 5GS and knew both soldiers well. Loz was killed on Corps day in a 432 accident up near Sanski Most and Tammie was injured in an RTA at Kamensko towards the backend of the tour and died a few weeks later, ironically during our post tour pis* up, not alot of people turned up for work the next few days.

As said previously there is a plaque remembering both soldiers in the Chapel at Fulwood Barracks, maybe this plaque should be returned to 5GS to place somewhere else in Fulwood or another prominent place.

23rd June I will be remembering both, proud to have known them.
 
#13
I was on the same tour as Stan, Tammy was in my section then, had a lot of respect for her and she could drink most blokes under the table. swapped postings with her as she wanted to return to 5 . Was most gutted to here that she had passed away. i did here that she didnt die in Bos but was flown home and had her life support turned off here in UK, can any1 clarify this??

What u upto now Stan, u still trying to sell body armour ;)
 
#14
The plaque at the side of the road is in respect to an RTA. A WO 2 went round Bosnia and has placed plaques at every RTA site. This was in part due to the fact that more brits have been lost in RTA than enemy action. The only reason i know about this is that he put the last of his plaques down in 2003 and received a nice certificate from the CO of 1 UK BG.
 
#15
I was Loz and Tammy's full screw in Bos '95, both were good for a laugh. Loz arrived at 2 AFA in 1994 and was as keen as mustard. As I understand it he was the driver of a 432 that rolled into a river and he was unable to get out of his harness. Tammy I knew only slightly however I remember her as a willing worker. IIRC she was a passenger in a Rover V Daf/ Bedford accident that ultimately caused her to die of her injuries.
 
#17
cylon_lover said:
The plaque at the side of the road is in respect to an RTA. A WO 2 went round Bosnia and has placed plaques at every RTA site. This was in part due to the fact that more brits have been lost in RTA than enemy action. The only reason i know about this is that he put the last of his plaques down in 2003 and received a nice certificate from the CO of 1 UK BG.
Interesting. The plaques may be subject to attrition over the years, but civilian RTA markers are increasingly common in parts of the Balkans, and local people will tend to respect them.

As well as honouring fallen comrades who lost their lives in the service of peace, these plaques may serve as a quiet reminder that "we were here".



RIP
 
#18
I was Laws room mate at 2AFA and i can honestly say that he was one of the nicest guys that i have ever had the plesure of meeting. I have a framed photo of him and i gripping on-to a hand rail on a mountain in Bavaria (a place where he said was his most favorite place in the world, and to top it the ****** got a 6 month posting to house catcher in sontoffen, the best 6 months of his life as he told me) and i would love to send it to his mum. If any one has her address i would be most grateful if you could PM it to me. He had the most awful pair of blue and yellow boots that you could ever imagine and was mad for the outdoors, like i said a pure quality soldier. On a sad side note it was my friend who held his hand as he died, i cannot begin to imagine the terrible trauma he has to go through most days. RIP Laws you were unique.

I never met Tammy but did meet a few of her friends who could not speak highly enough of her. My mate was the driver of her vehicle and can't remember a thing about it but is very saddened about the whole scenario. He got found guilty of death by dangerous driving and was fined £1000 and the court cost. I hope that if ever i am found guilty of anything then it is the people who sat in that court room who sit in mine. jobsworths.
 
#19
I was very honoured to serve with Tammy at 5 FD, she was a credit to the Corps and a bloody good medic. She drank cider like no-one I know and had a wicked temper!!! All in all, she had a great personality.
She did indeed die as a result of injuries sustained after an RTA in Bosnia.
She is buried in a tiny graveyard in a village called Cowbit near to Spalding in Lincolnshire.
I take her flowers every year on 11th November, to make sure I remember her as a good friend and medic.
 
#20
Not long joined this site and found this thread by accident. I was one of the surviours from the Jason Lawrence incident.

Also killed in the accident was a 21 year old interpreter,who was sat next to me and was thrown out of the mortar hatch as the 432 ended up on its roof in a river.

Tommo
 

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