importing bits of guns

#1
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
 
#2
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
You would be charged with "Piece of the Breech" if caught
 
#3
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
4(T) will know better than I but the trigger mech (and possibly other bits) may be controlled on his side of the pond.

All those bits are uncontrolled here.
 
#4
galgenberg said:
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
You would be charged with "Piece of the Breech" if caught
???
 
#5
EX_STAB said:
4(T) will know better than I but the trigger mech (and possibly other bits) may be controlled on his side of the pond.

All those bits are uncontrolled here.
Shoud'n't be a prob - unless an arrschloch customs bod decides to go against the standard definition from case law of a firearm part being a pressure-bearing component. Broadest definition leads to generic screws, springs & stocks being controlled parts, but the case-law says otherwise, and Customs/Home Orifice normally lose any cases they bring anyway.

Just get your mate to mark the package up as "machine parts" (a rifle's a machine, innit?), or "antique parts". Get him to get creative but NOT LIE.
 

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LE
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#7
Jubbles said:
galgenberg said:
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
You would be charged with "Piece of the Breech" if caught
???
Oh come come! Breach of the Peace? Keep up boy, keep up! :wink:
 
#9
You can legally import any of the non-pressure bearing parts. You may, of course, get hammered for import duty, VAT and that nice little Parcelforce "admin fee"....

If you have an FAC with appropriate "authorised to acquire" slots, you can freely import pressure-bearing parts or even a complete firearm. Whether the parcel turns up your doorstep or you have to collect from a parcelforce depot, you just need to liaise with your Police firearms department as to how you should enter the items on your FAC.

If you are a private person importing parts for your own use, you do not need an import licence. If you are a dealer or intend to import large volumes, then you need to go to the (whatever the DTI is called this week) and obtain an import licence.

Be aware that all parcels containing firearms components are (usually) detected, so best to keep copies of correspondence, etc, handy in case you get a knock on the door by an HMRC inspector (these guys are charged with tracking who imports what and where it goes).
 
#10
I have an FAC for the weapon but already have one, im not paying for it so vat should be an issue right?

so basicly no problems whatsoever in doing it
 
#11
Off topic, but shocked to hear a Mosin went tits up, thought you could pull them out of the dirt in Ukraine and shoot them.
 
#12
Jubbles said:
I have an FAC for the weapon but already have one, im not paying for it so vat should be an issue right?

so basicly no problems whatsoever in doing it
If the vendor declares the value at "nil" on the customs label, you may find that HMRC charge duty on a deemed value. Unfortunately a lot of people got overseas mail order vendors to write nil value or "gift", and thus HMRC tends to make up their own minds.....
 
#13
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
Yes. But it can still go wrong because everybody is paranoid about 'eeeevil guns' and you'll probably be put on a database somewhere as a potential murdering paedophile. Best to find a UK importer and pay his inflated prices to avoid all the hassle from the feds
 
#14
walt_of_the_walts said:
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
Yes. But it can still go wrong because everybody is paranoid about 'eeeevil guns' and you'll probably be put on a database somewhere as a potential murdering paedophile. Best to find a UK importer and pay his inflated prices to avoid all the hassle from the feds
err... no.

The only concern I would have is that your friend in the US may fall foul of Federal law because he ought to have an Export licence (Or license in his case ;) )
 
#15
Bearing in mind I had a firearms response team raid my flat (I was out, sorry darling) when customs picked up Pachwey(? Can't remember) Browning grips trough the post from the US.

“Where is the gun?! WHERE IS THE GUN?!”

Two lumps of rubber.

Drunken online shopping, don't do it.

FAC must make all the difference...
 
#16
most packages that are shipped in from abroad usually have import duty on them .. but i found out that if the sender posts them as gifts theres no duty on them ...... not sure how it works with things like firearms pieces........ but on majority of smallish packages it does apply
 

ugly

LE
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#17
Jubbles said:
I have a friend in america who's mosin has kicked the bucket with its barrel worn out and the trigger messed up, he doesnt want it and i want whats left of it for spares for my own and because I dont have all the things he has eg. stripper clips

would it be lawful for him to post me in a package, the stock, trigger mechanism, stripper clips, bayonet, sling foresight, rear sight

but NOT the receiver or the barrel

Is this all A ok?
Roughly ok, I buy stocks etc mail order and you dont need a licence for bits of wood or metal, remember that most US sales are private non dealer sales and therefore arent registered. It shouldnt be a problem!
 
#18
You may not have any problems with Customs at the UK end.

If your friend wants to export any firearm parts out of the US he will need to be registered as an exporter with the US state department.

Once he has done this he will need an export licence to export.

There is an exemption from the licence if the item/s are below $100 in value in total, however he would still be required to be registered.

I got this information from the US State Department when I was offered some magazines from a US citizen. I checked as I didn't want the seller to fall foul of Federal Law.

If your friend is not registered he commits a Federal Offence.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#19
That may not apply if its C&R and the Moisin is.
 
#20
So, from my reading of this thread, importing a stock (which is basically a bit of shaped timber) from the US should be OK?

Has anyone got a suggestion what the likely import duty would be if I were to go down the "something to declare" route? I've got friends coming back across the water who could bring it for me...
 

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