Imperial War Museum has to apologise for WOKE anti Churchill Rant on remembrance sunday

And because you all wanna see what it’s like and how it performs, here’s a YouTube treat for you.
Enjoys!




Personally, I think it tries too hard to be black, woke, ‘on vibe’, London centric, anti establishment etc.
It doesn’t have its own mind, is easily coerced by socialist ideology.
If it wasn’t a lefty, it’d be a NAZI.

It's a worrying example of the process of evolution in reverse.

We're transitioning from survival of the fittest, to survival of the shittest.
 

arfah

ADC
I couldn't find anything on the IWM performance but this came up looking for MC Angel.

Is this the party involved?


That was shît!
It takes the ever evolving genre of rap/hip-hop back at least 30 years.
The lyrics are of a standard of a 12 year old trying to rap for the first time.
No real effort, ambition or attempt to be cutting edge.
As for any message she/he/it was trying to convey? MC Bandwagon.

Worst of all… She has disappointing breasts.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
I laud the fact that the Museum is trying to reach these groups and educate, that is their whole raison d'etre. I would also, as mentioned, genuinely welcome the opportunity to speak with the children who performed and discuss their thoughts. (Contrary to evidence provided across this site, I suspect most other users would also take the opportunity)

The issue was the time and place, the perpetrator was the so called musician MC Angel who needs introducing to a sharpened cattlegrid whilst wearing osprey.

How hard can it be for an institution well-supplied with guns and knives to stimulate interest among South London's youth?
 
How hard can it be for an institution well-supplied with guns and knives to stimulate interest among South London's youth?

Because there's precious few of both in the new IWM?

On of the best displays I found when younger was at Duxford. Someone had laid out a tale, with assorted small arms on it (all properly chained up).
 
In that situation, calling out some teenagers would have only made the situation worse and cast the veterans I was stood with look bitter and Racist.

It was a Kafka trap.

I would however like to get said scruffy oiks in a room with some veterans and have an open and honest discussion about their views. The frizzy haired socialist gimp who gave them the words just needs feeding feet first into an acid bath.

Hmmn. I think that as the kids probably wrote the rap themselves that you're being a mite too soft on all the tw@ts involved in this, adults and kids. They didn't have to get up there and perform, did they?
 

Arte_et_Marte

ADC
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Adolf Bear was kidnapped, drugged and forced to wear a uniform. He didn't start a war, he is innocent and cuddly.

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The war in the far east. Nobody got hurt. It was all fun and of course lots of cuddles.

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Interactive stand. The horror at Bergen-Belsen. Dive in kids and get cuddles.

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Memo from the Museum Director. "We cannot display this, we want the truth, of actual WAR, not blood stuffingthirsty propaganda from so called 'eye witness reports & Regimental diaries. Remove it from the building immediately."

Etc Etc...
 

Londo

LE
It had long been an ambition of mine to visit the IWM, which I achieved a couple of years back. To say I was underwhelmed is an understatement. However, I was also very disappointed with the National Maritime Museum. Far too few actual exhibits and far too much emphasis on children 'playing games' to 'learn'.

When I was a child I remember vividly being taken to Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow and being amazed and enthralled. Been there too recently - let's just say it too has changed.

Anyway, have IWM come out with an official apology yet?
Both museums were excellent years ago / IWM visited many many times .
Mind you I'm talking about 40+ years in the case of the IWM
 
How hard can it be for an institution well-supplied with guns and knives to stimulate interest among South London's youth?
They could have a 'hard play' room for youngsters. Instead of a ball pool and lots of foam things, the 'soljas' could have a go at each other with P07 Bayonets and swords and things. Respecting their heritage and tha'
 


UK arts professionals are voicing support for Madeline Odent, a curator at the Royston and District Museum and Art Gallery in Hertfordshire, who sparked controversy after discussing on social media substances that could be used to damage bronze statues. Odent posted a series of tweets to her personal account after Black Lives Matter demonstrators toppled a statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol and historic statues worldwide come under scrutiny.

Odent wrote on Twitter: “From an art conservation perspective, it’s honestly fine to throw paint on memorials of genocidal racists! Paint is pretty easy to clean off. What would be an absolute shame is if people were to throw certain common household items that can cause irreversible bronze disease.”

The tweets continue: “Because like, if somebody were to, idk, throw a ton of tomatoes at a bust of a genocidal racist, nobody would probably notice the chemical reaction until it was too late to save the artefact.”

A relationship manager for Arts Council England who oversees the funding body’s portfolio of museums in the east of England, also backs Odent on Twitter on a personal account, saying: “On top of this just being amusingly written, the curator in question does excellent work. She has worked hard to improve engagement with the museum. We fully support her.”

And this person worked in a museum where they're meant to preserve history ffs.
Bronze disease. Tomatoes. Right. Anyone know where St Greta's bronze statue is?
 

AlienFTM

MIA
Book Reviewer
Because there's precious few of both in the new IWM?

On of the best displays I found when younger was at Duxford. Someone had laid out a tale, with assorted small arms on it (all properly chained up).
I've told this before. Armex 1975 at Harrogate. I'd just told RMP where they could stick their truncheons and the sun didn't shine, and hadn't yet joined a troop of knights that cared for neither wounds nor scars. So I was well handy with Small Metal Gun.

There was a display 6' table with some weapons chained to it.

"Watch this," I said to me mucker, and proceeded to strip SMG as for cleaning in about two seconds. At the precise instant the back plate came off, leaving 95% of the SMG not chained to the table, I saw the look of horror in the young Scaley's eye.

Lucky for him, I'd reassembled it before he could react.

Just saying.
 
I imagine the education system is also partly to blame. History and the humanities have been completely removed from almost all colleges in the kingdom. Most colleges are vocational STEM. You only do history of you stay at a school and do it for GCSE.

A typical example is Bolton college, which I've picked entirely at random. You could do the same for almost any others. Vocational Training & Further Education » Bolton College
All the courses are vocational, there's nothing there to tell you about British cultural traditions, national identity, Western Civilization or what used to be called a 'Liberal Education'.

Even with GCSE/A level, it's all about WW1 and the inter war period and rise of the Nazis. Barely anything is about the problems Churchill faced in government. Most teachers are also raging lefties which probably doesn't help matters.

A year or so back primary school kids were running laps of their school to help show solidarity with the migrants...
 
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UK arts professionals are voicing support for Madeline Odent, a curator at the Royston and District Museum and Art Gallery in Hertfordshire, who sparked controversy after discussing on social media substances that could be used to damage bronze statues. Odent posted a series of tweets to her personal account after Black Lives Matter demonstrators toppled a statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol and historic statues worldwide come under scrutiny.

Odent wrote on Twitter: “From an art conservation perspective, it’s honestly fine to throw paint on memorials of genocidal racists! Paint is pretty easy to clean off. What would be an absolute shame is if people were to throw certain common household items that can cause irreversible bronze disease.”

The tweets continue: “Because like, if somebody were to, idk, throw a ton of tomatoes at a bust of a genocidal racist, nobody would probably notice the chemical reaction until it was too late to save the artefact.”

A relationship manager for Arts Council England who oversees the funding body’s portfolio of museums in the east of England, also backs Odent on Twitter on a personal account, saying: “On top of this just being amusingly written, the curator in question does excellent work. She has worked hard to improve engagement with the museum. We fully support her.”

And this person worked in a museum where they're meant to preserve history ffs.

I find it incredulous that the museum she is employed with have not sacked her for gross misconduct.

She tweeted how to vandalise, whilst employed by the museum, on a public forum when her job is looking after public (and private?) artefacts.
There are clauses with employers about not bringing them into disrepute which (IMHO) she clearly has.

I believe Oliver Heald is the MP for the area? I feel a strongly worded letter of complaint, along with links to stories. Especially if the museum (her salary!) is funded by the tax payer.
 


UK arts professionals are voicing support for Madeline Odent, a curator at the Royston and District Museum and Art Gallery in Hertfordshire, who sparked controversy after discussing on social media substances that could be used to damage bronze statues. Odent posted a series of tweets to her personal account after Black Lives Matter demonstrators toppled a statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol and historic statues worldwide come under scrutiny.

Odent wrote on Twitter: “From an art conservation perspective, it’s honestly fine to throw paint on memorials of genocidal racists! Paint is pretty easy to clean off. What would be an absolute shame is if people were to throw certain common household items that can cause irreversible bronze disease.”

The tweets continue: “Because like, if somebody were to, idk, throw a ton of tomatoes at a bust of a genocidal racist, nobody would probably notice the chemical reaction until it was too late to save the artefact.”

A relationship manager for Arts Council England who oversees the funding body’s portfolio of museums in the east of England, also backs Odent on Twitter on a personal account, saying: “On top of this just being amusingly written, the curator in question does excellent work. She has worked hard to improve engagement with the museum. We fully support her.”

And this person worked in a museum where they're meant to preserve history ffs.

From the Royston museum website:

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At least point six - “maintain and develop our professional standing in the sector”.
So the curator, and her bosses advocating her silly child twerp tweets is part of that plan?
 

oldnotbold

War Hero
I find it incredulous that the museum she is employed with have not sacked her for gross misconduct.

She tweeted how to vandalise, whilst employed by the museum, on a public forum when her job is looking after public (and private?) artefacts.
There are clauses with employers about not bringing them into disrepute which (IMHO) she clearly has.

I believe Oliver Heald is the MP for the area? I feel a strongly worded letter of complaint, along with links to stories. Especially if the museum (her salary!) is funded by the tax payer.
The museum, never a "must", enjoyed a brief popularity, as several hundred Trip Adviser 1* (and I don't mean brigadier level) reviews hit before Trip Adviser locked it. As the article says, the woke curator went pretty soon after.

With all of this stuff, if you don't like it moan....Fill in the comment cards, review etc. I have dealings with several tourist attractions and they watch the various review sites. They'll ignore the obvious green crayon stuff but if lots of visitors complain about the same thing they will take note.

Over the river, the National Army Museum is getting back to being a military museum. The management eventually realised that the promised new audiences weren't going appear and annoying the existing ones was a mistake. It'll take a while, as the ill-judged refurb cost tens of millions of pounds, but at least they've started to correct the mess the consultants, and former Director, made.
 

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