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Im a disillusioned nurse get me outta here!!!

#1
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and unfortunately I do it out of desperation. I'm a staff nurse at a MDHU, and work on a general surgical ward.
Today I had a normal patient load on the ward, with most of them being in the 80-100(seriously) age bracket. Most of the staff on the shift, which was 14 hours long, were military.
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.
The ward on which I work has haemorrhaged staff nurses and HCA's recently, and due to the NHS trust funding crisis, these staff are not being replaced, meaning that the remaining staff find themselves doing three times as many nights as normal, and grafting a lot harder during every shift, with sometimes dangerous staffing levels.

The above description aims to give the reader an insight into why i feel I must submit a posting preference within the next few days. Before I did my nurse training I was a contented CMT in a very busy field unit, and I am now wondering if it would be a good idea to head back to a field regiment as an RN.

I am hoping to draw on the huge amount of experience of you fellow ARRSErs and will appreciate any advice you can give me, as the situation is becoming bleak. I don't think I can help prop up the NHS for much longer. I didn't know that by doing my nurse training I would be secretly transferred to the NHS!
 
#2
JonesTheCat said:
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and unfortunately I do it out of desperation. I'm a staff nurse at a MDHU, and work on a general surgical ward.
Today I had a normal patient load on the ward, with most of them being in the 80-100(seriously) age bracket. Most of the staff on the shift, which was 14 hours long, were military.
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.
The ward on which I work has haemorrhaged staff nurses and HCA's recently, and due to the NHS trust funding crisis, these staff are not being replaced, meaning that the remaining staff find themselves doing three times as many nights as normal, and grafting a lot harder during every shift, with sometimes dangerous staffing levels.

The above description aims to give the reader an insight into why i feel I must submit a posting preference within the next few days. Before I did my nurse training I was a contented CMT in a very busy field unit, and I am now wondering if it would be a good idea to head back to a field regiment as an RN.

I am hoping to draw on the huge amount of experience of you fellow ARRSErs and will appreciate any advice you can give me, as the situation is becoming bleak. I don't think I can help prop up the NHS for much longer. I didn't know that by doing my nurse training I would be secretly transferred to the NHS!
have u voiced your concerns to your heads of sheds? start there not much u can do on here and maybe all u'll get is flamed.

the grass is always greener m8 and to be fair i know alot of out of work nurses that would give thier right arm to be in your position. maybe you should have a chat to your boss and see where it all stands in regards to hiring these out of work nurses or even try agency nurses.

in everycase, try to resolve this issue and not make it worse for your friends by jumping ship because you find it hard. they wont thank you for it. ask them to help voice the issues.
surley this wont be forever. it will settle again. just knuckle in bro and fight through. hero's always get the girls :p

PTM
 
#3
Welcome to the world some of us pesimistic, cynical arrsers have been harping on about in terms of MDHUs!

we are there to keep the NHS going and are used as cheap labour, get used to it, as long as MDHUs are the main concept then thats what it will be like!

Sorry matey but unless pigs fly, thats it for you!
 
#4
I take it the MDHU is your first post since qualifying

in which case

your next posting will be a field unit (no matter how much previous field experience you may have)
 
#5
Sorry you're having a crap time - that's what nursing can be like, and it is like for many of your colleagues up and down the country. I realise it's not what you expected training within the army. PTM and Bedpan2zero point out quite rightly that, for you, it won't go on forever and that there are qualified RN's out there without work. Ok, maybe that's not much comfort now perhaps, but think on it.

But for me your message got me thinking about the many crap times in my twenty odd years behind the bedpan and what kept me going. Partly it's been the odd bits of appreciation from whoever I've looked after, and partly it's been the craic with mates in the same situation. It is crap, it does feel awful but there is always a glimmer if you look and, I know this is a bit of cliché, but the experience can help you in the future - it's just a case of how you choose to see it.

Good luck, hope the future has less imaginative face painting ['I'm just going to wipe your bottom', I said to one older woman once. 'And I'm just shitting in your 'and', she said. And she was!] and more satisfaction. Tough it out!
 
#6
JonesTheCat said:
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and unfortunately I do it out of desperation. I'm a staff nurse at a MDHU, and work on a general surgical ward.
Today I had a normal patient load on the ward, with most of them being in the 80-100(seriously) age bracket. Most of the staff on the shift, which was 14 hours long, were military.
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.
The ward on which I work has haemorrhaged staff nurses and HCA's recently, and due to the NHS trust funding crisis, these staff are not being replaced, meaning that the remaining staff find themselves doing three times as many nights as normal, and grafting a lot harder during every shift, with sometimes dangerous staffing levels.

The above description aims to give the reader an insight into why i feel I must submit a posting preference within the next few days. Before I did my nurse training I was a contented CMT in a very busy field unit, and I am now wondering if it would be a good idea to head back to a field regiment as an RN.

I am hoping to draw on the huge amount of experience of you fellow ARRSErs and will appreciate any advice you can give me, as the situation is becoming bleak. I don't think I can help prop up the NHS for much longer. I didn't know that by doing my nurse training I would be secretly transferred to the NHS!
keep a diary - and ensure that your chain of command are aware of what is going on. The diary is to back up your 'risk assessment' not a whines book.

having recently talked to DANS - he is wanting to know where the problems are, and what they are.
If we dont tell the top, the top doesnt know - and if 'we' the workers want things to change, then the top needs to know
 
#7
I to am an ex CMT (now nurse) on a field unit posting. Your experiences are by no means unique and the previous replies are correct.

firstly document - for yourself and to create a paper trail for any investigation.

a strong HOD is important as theoretically we are only supposed to provide a certain amount of clinical hours per week. by keeping a record there is more chance of something being done about it.

If you are feeling this way then i can almost gaurentee that your military collegues are too.

finally be realistic about what is expected of you - the job is totally different to being a student and the first few years are the worst. it is a cliche but also true - you will look back at these times and remember the good things. Learn the ropes before trying to jump to a field unit as you will need all the clinical experience you can get for when you deploy. :thumleft:
 
#8
dui-lai said:
Welcome to the world some of us pesimistic, cynical arrsers have been harping on about in terms of MDHUs!

we are there to keep the NHS going and are used as cheap labour, get used to it, as long as MDHUs are the main concept then thats what it will be like!

Sorry matey but unless pigs fly, thats it for you!
excellent post, and it seems that that's all the QA's have to offer. I'd love to know the manning and retention figures for this corps, because on a day-to-day basis i only meet people with the same views as the original poster and arent going to "tough it out"
 
#9
JonesTheCat said:
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and unfortunately I do it out of desperation. I'm a staff nurse at a MDHU, and work on a general surgical ward.
Today I had a normal patient load on the ward, with most of them being in the 80-100(seriously) age bracket. Most of the staff on the shift, which was 14 hours long, were military.
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.
The ward on which I work has haemorrhaged staff nurses and HCA's recently, and due to the NHS trust funding crisis, these staff are not being replaced, meaning that the remaining staff find themselves doing three times as many nights as normal, and grafting a lot harder during every shift, with sometimes dangerous staffing levels.

The above description aims to give the reader an insight into why i feel I must submit a posting preference within the next few days. Before I did my nurse training I was a contented CMT in a very busy field unit, and I am now wondering if it would be a good idea to head back to a field regiment as an RN.

I am hoping to draw on the huge amount of experience of you fellow ARRSErs and will appreciate any advice you can give me, as the situation is becoming bleak. I don't think I can help prop up the NHS for much longer. I didn't know that by doing my nurse training I would be secretly transferred to the NHS!
Please PM me ASAP.
 
#10
RAF_Nurse! said:
JonesTheCat said:
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and unfortunately I do it out of desperation. I'm a staff nurse at a MDHU, and work on a general surgical ward.
Today I had a normal patient load on the ward, with most of them being in the 80-100(seriously) age bracket. Most of the staff on the shift, which was 14 hours long, were military.
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.
The ward on which I work has haemorrhaged staff nurses and HCA's recently, and due to the NHS trust funding crisis, these staff are not being replaced, meaning that the remaining staff find themselves doing three times as many nights as normal, and grafting a lot harder during every shift, with sometimes dangerous staffing levels.

The above description aims to give the reader an insight into why i feel I must submit a posting preference within the next few days. Before I did my nurse training I was a contented CMT in a very busy field unit, and I am now wondering if it would be a good idea to head back to a field regiment as an RN.

I am hoping to draw on the huge amount of experience of you fellow ARRSErs and will appreciate any advice you can give me, as the situation is becoming bleak. I don't think I can help prop up the NHS for much longer. I didn't know that by doing my nurse training I would be secretly transferred to the NHS!
Please PM me ASAP.
rofl could this be a poacher in operation here lol

i'm guessing the RAF are having the staff problems too.

p.s why didnt you just pm him? or did you want your inbox spamming by every wise guy on the forum members list. lol
 
#11
Bedpan2zero said:
I take it the MDHU is your first post since qualifying

in which case

your next posting will be a field unit (no matter how much previous field experience you may have)
how long has that been the case, other than deployment I was never posted to a field unit
 
#12
Pox_Dr said:
Bedpan2zero said:
I take it the MDHU is your first post since qualifying

in which case

your next posting will be a field unit (no matter how much previous field experience you may have)
how long has that been the case, other than deployment I was never posted to a field unit
This is a new direction from the top. All newly qualled (of which I am one) are being sent to the field Army for their second post, this has come from both DANS and the NEA. My own personal opinion is it has to be a positive move and I am certainly looking forward to getting back into the "military"

Wee man
 
#13
on a lighter note,if you post piccies of the lady with the stinky tache on ARRSE you'll have bezzers coming out of your ears with MDN, Geordie_blerk and the like thinking they've found a whole untapped porn market!!!
 
#14
bigbird67 said:
on a lighter note,if you post piccies of the lady with the stinky tache on ARRSE you'll have bezzers coming out of your ears with MDN, Geordie_blerk and the like thinking they've found a whole untapped porn market!!!
get a life you seriously sad individual

if you want to post 'stupidly' got to the bar - if you have any worth while contributions then you can stay

MODS- Oxygen thief potential here
 
#15
bigbird67 said:
on a lighter note,if you post piccies of the lady with the stinky tache on ARRSE you'll have bezzers coming out of your ears with MDN, Geordie_blerk and the like thinking they've found a whole untapped porn market!!!
(!?)
 
#16
We spent the vast majority of the shift going from one patient to another, trying to just keep them clean, which is difficult when, for example, one lady stuck her fingers up her arrse and gave herself a hitler mustache, followed by full war-paint with the offending fingers.

Jones the Cat, this is exactly the kind of thing which demotivates military personnel working within the NHS. Combine the shit from the patients (literally in your case) with the shit from the civvy managers and absent or ineffective civvy colleagues and the result is burnout followed by depression.

One solution! Save your soul, give up nursing, re-capbadge to anything! I am AMS and would be sad to lose you but if you feel that down, your life's not worth it and its guaranteed the system would post you back to the NHS at some point.

Our recent discussions on the future of MDHUs and mil hospitals were driven by the need to avoid putting DMS personnel in these situations.

FACT- wiping an old dears arse all day is not making you a better military nurse for your operational role of providing high quality care for soldiers. The non-operational DMS has been absorbed into the NHS to work like b*tches! It must change!
 
#17
Pox_Dr said:
Bedpan2zero said:
I take it the MDHU is your first post since qualifying

in which case

your next posting will be a field unit (no matter how much previous field experience you may have)
how long has that been the case, other than deployment I was never posted to a field unit
I agree there are many AMS clinical specialities whose career aspirations are kept up by the promise of a 'field unit posting'.

All of the Doctors held on strength at ****** Field Ambulance (mid nineties) were working like bitches in distant NHS hospitals. The CMTs stagged on the gate and got fat! The RHQ element worked their asses off preparing for exercises that involved camping in chester for 2 weeks doing FA. The MT boys were the unit taxi drivers when not stagging on. The QMs department worked every hour (and extremely professionally) that god sent them to deny kit to the soldiers in the unit. The med centre staff worked their balls off for a civvy GP to provide primary med care to the local units, and then stagged on the gate! Deployment with said unit involved much the same apart from a blue light matrix.

I realise it is a step up from wiping arses but it is hardly boys own stuff. The unit was full of good people all pulling hard but in the wrong direction.

THIS MUST CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#18
Thanks to everyone who replied to this post, especially to those who could sense the desperation and responded accordingly. I think that part of my problem is that as a CMT i went from Keogh to an Airmobile unit, then re-roled to Air Assault, then support to UKSF, and had quite a juicy, interesting set of postings, which, compared with what I have day-to-day here in the MDHU, well....................
I will give a posting preference within the next week, asking for a field unit. (preferably not Field Hospital). I would be interested in what units people would recommend for a nurse who's keen for the green?
I would love to get back into UKSF support, as i had some great times there as a CMT, but as a nurse who hasn't specialised yet, anyone know what the chances are of me getting back into it?
 
#19
JonesTheCat said:
Thanks to everyone who replied to this post, especially to those who could sense the desperation and responded accordingly. I think that part of my problem is that as a CMT i went from Keogh to an Airmobile unit, then re-roled to Air Assault, then support to UKSF, and had quite a juicy, interesting set of postings, which, compared with what I have day-to-day here in the MDHU, well....................
I will give a posting preference within the next week, asking for a field unit. (preferably not Field Hospital). I would be interested in what units people would recommend for a nurse who's keen for the green?
I would love to get back into UKSF support, as i had some great times there as a CMT, but as a nurse who hasn't specialised yet, anyone know what the chances are of me getting back into it?
got onto Med Tp at 16 - and enquire about undertaking Black Serpent

as an RN - its the closest youll get!

Specialise? why?? nowt wrong with being a 'generalist'
 
#20
That's where I was before I started my nurse training, had some good times there, but that was 4 years ago, and everyone i worked with at the time has left. I'm not sure if they've even moved to Wales like has been talked about recently. I might have to give them a call. Anyone have any firmer info on the situation to share? Feel free to PM me if you wish.
 

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