If only all politicians were like this ...

#2
Good luck to the fella, sounds like he's got his head screwed on.
 
#4
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
 
#5
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
 

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#6
jagman said:
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
Would it not be better if all candidates had to be residents (for at least ten years, say) within the constituency they hope to represent, thus ensuring a representative who had a better understanding of those who vote in that area?
 
#7
ancienturion said:
jagman said:
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
Would it not be better if all candidates had to be residents (for at least ten years, say) within the constituency they hope to represent, thus ensuring a representative who had a better understanding of those who vote in that area?
Yes I believe you are right. It would help the electorate get MP's that understand their needs.

It would also prevent the Milibands of the world being shoe-horned into a safe seat and into government regardless of ability or talent.
 
#8
jagman said:
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
Jagman, I didn't say P&B was an urban area? I'm not criticising him either, merely suggesting his life and outlook will very likley change if and when he's elected. It's all well and good for Cameron and the Tories to attract 'normal' people as candidates but there also needs to be a good splash of 'governing' experience in the mix. A friend has been selected as a candidate for a town in Wiltshire and whilst she's very bright, hardworking and honest it's unknown if she'll make a good politician (and she doesn't walk anywhere).
 
#9
My parents live there and actually met him a couple of months ago. There is a massive conservative majority there, 17000. The only thing that puts the locals off is that he is Scottish although the current incumbent is also from north of the border.

People are still angry about the handling of the Foot and Mouth so Labour will fall back even further and the BNP will most likely benefit from that.
 
#10
whingeingpom said:
jagman said:
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
Jagman, I didn't say P&B was an urban area? I'm not criticising him either, merely suggesting his life and outlook will very likley change if and when he's elected. It's all well and good for Cameron and the Tories to attract 'normal' people as candidates but there also needs to be a good splash of 'governing' experience in the mix. A friend has been selected as a candidate for a town in Wiltshire and whilst she's very bright, hardworking and honest it's unknown if she'll make a good politician (and she doesn't walk anywhere).
Fair comment.
The point I was trying to make is that Penrith and Broders has a unique set of requirements to understand.
The last MP was in the job since the dawn of time, before that it was Willie Whitelaw.
Put bluntly, a city boy isn't going to understand the people or the environment, this bloke seems to be trying to get a grip on it and I can respect that much of him.
 
#11
I hope all his walking has given him time to ponder on the big issues facing the next Tory Govt - fuck me they face a challenge and a half to sort out the cluster-fuck this shower will leave them.

A pity the article didn't articulate his stance on the economy, foreign policy etc. I fear the labour spin goons will grab this story and spin it to pieces.
 
#12
ancienturion said:
jagman said:
whingeingpom said:
I don't doubt he plans to be a different type of politician but he won't have time to walk the constituency if he's elected and I doubt this approach would work in most urban areas. He may glean lots of useful information but is he any good at resolving the issues, particularly if they're at odds with Party policies? I'll bet he gets some free walking kit however.
Penrith and Borders is not an urban area though.
He is trying to gain an understanding of the area he hopes to represent and as such he makes himself a worthy contender.
Its a damned sight more than most politicians do.
Would it not be better if all candidates had to be residents (for at least ten years, say) within the constituency they hope to represent, thus ensuring a representative who had a better understanding of those who vote in that area?
Absolutely, if nothing else it stops the national party parachuting clueless idiots in.
 
#13
spoiltb said:
My parents live there and actually met him a couple of months ago. There is a massive conservative majority there, 17000. The only thing that puts the locals off is that he is Scottish although the current incumbent is also from north of the border.

People are still angry about the handling of the Foot and Mouth so Labour will fall back even further and the BNP will most likely benefit from that.
I was raised in that constuency, I moved away a couple of years ago but otherwise it has always been home to me.
You are right about foot and mouth, you are also right about the BNP.
 
#14
For someone so young he has achieved a remarkable amount, including a spell as Deputy Governor of Maysan Province in Iraq. He also has an understanding of the countryside being a native of rural Perthshire. Gets my vote of confidence.
 
#15
As a native of that area I am impressed by his approach. He seems to be making an effort to understand his constituency. Being an 'Off-comer' (non-Cumbrian) rankles a bit but if he carries on in his current hands-on style he will become respected like Willie Whitelaw was - Willie NEVER forgot who voted for him! Unfortunately, My village has been transfered to a neighbouring 'pocket borough' to bring the numbers up so I cannot vote for him! His Sunday Times (3 Jan 2010) article is sound with the most astute observation being 'Cumbrians are balancing their tolerance of government with acts of iniative and subversion' which sums the species up well.
 
#16
MikeMcc said:
ancienturion said:
Would it not be better if all candidates had to be residents (for at least ten years, say) within the constituency they hope to represent, thus ensuring a representative who had a better understanding of those who vote in that area?
Absolutely, if nothing else it stops the national party parachuting clueless idiots in.
Well, it stops them parachuting idiots from elsewhere in. I'm sure they could find a local idiot round here somewhere, and they'd probably be trying to elevate well-known councillors.
 
#17
Sounds EXACTLY like the sort of person required in Parliament - irrespective of Party.

If he is elected, I hope that he resists the temptation to dip his snout into the trough and to vote as HE sees fit - in broad agreement with his Local Party - and not as he is directed by the Whips.

I would vote for him except that I am represented by the best (and prettiest) MP in Westminster - Justine Greening MP for Putney :D

Doubtless some hopeless 'erk' from Labour will be along shortly to say that he is a public-school educated, privileged 'toff' and that he should be sent to a labour camp for re-education.
 
#18
To be fair to the Milliband brothers...oh actually, that was completely fair to them if not possibly over-generous!
 
#19
I have read his book on Iraq and seen him on TV talking about Afghanistan, this bloke has done his bit and knows from real experiance about the situation unlike the majority of our crappy thieving MPs, best of luck to him, he is just the sort of MP we need
 
#20
Good luck to Rory. Certainly from these boards, the more candidates with Rory's mix of experience and knowledge should be welcomed. Whilst he might be seen as being parachuted into the land of the WesGaz', that is sadly how the system works.
 

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