If Labour win the election is a Communist UK a real possibility and how would it happen?

Most of us are well aware of a number of nasty people within the Labour Party who have a Communist/Socialist political outlook which has been long discredited by both history (collapse of Warsaw Pact etc) and more recent events (Venezuela).

If Comrade Corbyn and his ilk actually get into power at the next election (heaven forbid) just how could they go about turning the UK into their one party socialist workers paradise?

I don't need to be told how bad it would be, that is pretty self explanatory, but there a number of Arrsers who are far more knowledgeable regarding UK politics than myself and I'm simply curious to find out if it would actually be possible for a UK Government to turn the UK into a communist one party state.

I've put this into the Current events forum in order to encourage some sensible discussion... I live in hope, stranger things have happened... :)

I have been pondering this at work today and wondering how they could suppress or overrule Parliament or remove HM Queen without risking bring people onto the streets or how they could compel the Police and military to support a one party state.

Here's some inspiration...

 

4(T)

LE
The quick answer is that Westminster will just choose a government it likes, rather than the one that was voted for. We no longer have any democratic rules, after all.

The longer answer is that i imagine the country would quickly become ungovernable. The chances are that, first time Labour tried to implement one of their batshit marxist ideas, many of those affected won't - or won't be able to - comply.

Imagine, for example, they double council tax or impose a £1k pcm "mansion" tax on "rich" people. The reality is most people simply couldn't pay up, even if they wanted to. Add in some administrative foot-dragging by anyone who is not actually a Marxist, and the Labour government will quickly find they have no authority to govern.

I do wonder what might happen on the defence/ intelligence/ privy council side. Perhaps the military and CS would simply refuse to pass over sensitive information. #2 We no longer have any democratic rules, after all.
 

slick

LE
(Tinfoil hat on).... I suspect that there are shadowy people in the real corridors of power who have been discussing this issue for quite a few months. If things got too bad ( for instance where the Realm was threatened), then some of the agitators, (Corbyn, McDonnell et al), would be having an interview in a very dark room where they would have to agree to certain conditions, or they might find themselves dead in a wood somewhere with slashed wrists, or have a fatal car crash.... (tinfoil hat off) :)

Edit: A few weeks ago I was looking into overseas bank accounts and considering moving to foreign climes, just in case a combination of corrupt voting practices and a left wing electorate actually give us a Labour government in the next few weeks.
 
It will never happen, can you really see aunt betty and family, confined to some isolated farm house, and eventually being shot, ( Czar Nickolas 2nd and entire family wiped out by the communists) A Stasi or KGB style of policing, all industry, commerce, transport, banking, farming, fishing, and mining run by total incompetents, D Abbott comes to mind. And the military, think back, to the early 70's, when the government lost the plot, strikes, power cuts, 3 day weeks, blackouts, the army was on the verge of a military coup, Harold Wilson was ousted and Callahan took over. If it ever happens, and it won't, its all or nothing, Steptoe will want absolute control and power, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, Putin is a good example, as is Trump to a lesser degree.

Do you really think that millions of folk will stand idly by and allow that totally inept bunch of dreamers and subversives take over, I don't think so, and with all branches of the military backing them up...........
 
(Tinfoil hat on).... I suspect that there are shadowy people in the real corridors of power who have been discussing this issue for quite a few months. If things got too bad ( for instance where the Realm was threatened), then some of the agitators, (Corbyn, McDonnell et al), would be having an interview in a very dark room where they would have to agree to certain conditions, or they might find themselves dead in a wood somewhere with slashed wrists, or have a fatal car crash.... (tinfoil hat off) :)
What? Sort of like Dr David Kelly you mean? Surely not in this country - we are a bastion of democracy.

OOps. We are a banana republic.... so..... maybe
 
If JC gets in, I expect 50 percent of the forum to take to the streets in mass and break things. Making the news epic for the token Muricans to watch.

The other half will be to hungover to participate, and a few will praise the results.

We should dispatch a few crates of long knives.
 
This forum could well disappear due to some sort of admin error.
Any really hard line commie policies would probably get blocked by the Lords, hopefully. Although, would the HoL survive?
 
Most of us are well aware of a number of nasty people within the Labour Party who have a Communist/Socialist political outlook which has been long discredited by both history (collapse of Warsaw Pact etc) and more recent events (Venezuela).

If Comrade Corbyn and his ilk actually get into power at the next election (heaven forbid) just how could they go about turning the UK into their one party socialist workers paradise?

I don't need to be told how bad it would be, that is pretty self explanatory, but there a number of Arrsers who are far more knowledgeable regarding UK politics than myself and I'm simply curious to find out if it would actually be possible for a UK Government to turn the UK into a communist one party state.

I've put this into the Current events forum in order to encourage some sensible discussion... I live in hope, stranger things have happened... :)

I have been pondering this at work today and wondering how they could suppress or overrule Parliament or remove HM Queen without risking bring people onto the streets or how they could compel the Police and military to support a one party state.

Here's some inspiration...

Have you read this?

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I do wonder how Labour would actually enforce turning the UK into a one party communist state, support for Corbyn across the entire military appears to be minimal and there has been articles previously mentioning coups and mutiny in the event of a Corbyn government trying to break up the military.
 
I don’t think many of you would be looting. I imagine the Arrse crowd to be a bit more sophisticated and concentrate on burning down MP’s houses and government buildings.

My dear boy, if, god forbid, it ever comes to a total communist takeover, MP's houses , those that oppose the regime, would I suspect be protected, we on this island do not on the whole go in for wholesale looting and burning on the same scale as other country's ( Watts riots anyone) yes, I agree, we have had some unpleasantness in the past, Brixton 1981, and sporadic outbursts in 2011, but not on the scale you envisage. It will never happen, not here, not any time soon.
 

Slime

LE
To be honest, there is very much an elephant in the room here.
All that would be needed to see Labour stay in power forever would be for Diane Abbot to be in charge of reforming the fixed term parliament bill.
Once it was discovered that ‘eleventy twelvty seven and 89/2’s’ wasn’t a real number of years the bill would stay in force..........no more elections ;)
 
My dear boy, if, god forbid, it ever comes to a total communist takeover, MP's houses , those that oppose the regime, would I suspect be protected, we on this island do not on the whole go in for wholesale looting and burning on the same scale as other country's ( Watts riots anyone) yes, I agree, we have had some unpleasantness in the past, Brixton 1981, and sporadic outbursts in 2011, but not on the scale you envisage. It will never happen, not here, not any time soon.
Pity, because starting over fresh would a good thing. Alas you folks really are just not rebellious.
 
i think the other thing to consider is what sort of Labour win are we talking about? i think they would need a good (+30) majority to ensure some of the wackier stuff could get through parliament. As it is i think we're more likely to see them in a coalition so what we should try and understand is what would be acceptable to the SNP or the Lib Dems and what wouldnt
 
Pity, because starting over fresh would a good thing. Alas you folks really are just not rebellious.

Its not in our nature, we tried way back in 1642, the civil war, and watt Tyler led the peasants revolt in 1381, which culminated him being beheaded by the mayor of london. The poll tax riots in 1990 ousted the much hated and despised, PM Thatcher, and in 2000 the oil refinery's were blocked as a protest at sky high petrol prices, we do try, but somehow, its all seems to fizzle out, and the government resumes control.
 

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