IDF shoot 60-2,000 wounded.

If you think that >60 dead, and zero breaching the fence is "holding back" then there is little point in even pretending to hold a polite conversation with you.
Depends - if the IDF objective was to stop anyone breaching the fence at any cost, they succeeded. If the objective of HAMAS was to show the IDF as killers again, they succeeded too. #the losers were of course the ordinary people roped into it. the HAMAS members who were killed should have known what the end game was.
 
Hard to argue with those who don't get the meaning of "breaching the fence" for Israel. They probably think Israel problem in Gaza is like the one in Calais.
Nobody does, actually.

Edit: It seems that @anglo does. Which doesn't really surprise me.
 
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It's like Trump saying his military school experience is better than Bill Clinton's running away...
Or indeed Bush Junior's carefully contrived time in the Air National Guard during the 'Nam...

George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Washingtonpost.com: At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard

Meanwhile, approximately back on topic ( yes, sorry)

Israel accuses Palestinian protesters of running in front of their bullets just to make them look bad



However, Netanyahu has defended his armed forces and their tactics, accusing Palestinians of working together to jump in front of any random sniper’s bullets that happened to be in their vicinity.

Netanyahu told reporters,”These people could have avoided the thousands of high-velocity bullets sent in their general direction if they had wanted to.

“But no, their primary goal was to make Israel look like a bully on the international stage, so they took every opportunity they could to throw themselves in front of bullets that would have otherwise fallen harmlessly into the ground.

“And those dead children were probably thrown in front of bullets by their parents.

“No, of course I’m not going to express any sympathy for dead Palestinian children, why would I?”

--------------------------------- endit ------------------------------

Meanwhile, POTUS has taken to the Twittersphere to declare this 'Fake News' - well, he would , wooden't he ? LINK here for Unbelievers :
 
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It is incomplete, but imagine slinging that at Muslims. If they are true believers they would scatter to the 4 corners most Ricky Tick.
I wouldn't sling that at anyone, it would get slung down my throat. However the terrorists would be more than welcome to the end result the next day.
 
Or indeed Bush Junior's carefully contrived time in the Air National Guard during the 'Nam...

George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Washingtonpost.com: At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard

Meanwhile, approximately back on topic ( yes, sorry)

Israel accuses Palestinian protesters of running in front of their bullets just to make them look bad



However, Netanyahu has defended his armed forces and their tactics, accusing Palestinians of working together to jump in front of any random sniper’s bullets that happened to be in their vicinity.

Netanyahu told reporters,”These people could have avoided the thousands of high-velocity bullets sent in their general direction if they had wanted to.

“But no, their primary goal was to make Israel look like a bully on the international stage, so they took every opportunity they could to throw themselves in front of bullets that would have otherwise fallen harmlessly into the ground.

“And those dead children were probably thrown in front of bullets by their parents.

“No, of course I’m not going to express any sympathy for dead Palestinian children, why would I?”

--------------------------------- endit ------------------------------

Meanwhile, POTUS has taken to the Twittersphere to declare this 'Fake News' - well, he would , wooden't he ? LINK here for Unbelievers :
Benny's such a softy.
 
Or indeed Bush Junior's carefully contrived time in the Air National Guard during the 'Nam...

George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Washingtonpost.com: At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard

Meanwhile, approximately back on topic ( yes, sorry)

Israel accuses Palestinian protesters of running in front of their bullets just to make them look bad



However, Netanyahu has defended his armed forces and their tactics, accusing Palestinians of working together to jump in front of any random sniper’s bullets that happened to be in their vicinity.

Netanyahu told reporters,”These people could have avoided the thousands of high-velocity bullets sent in their general direction if they had wanted to.

“But no, their primary goal was to make Israel look like a bully on the international stage, so they took every opportunity they could to throw themselves in front of bullets that would have otherwise fallen harmlessly into the ground.

“And those dead children were probably thrown in front of bullets by their parents.

“No, of course I’m not going to express any sympathy for dead Palestinian children, why would I?”

--------------------------------- endit ------------------------------

Meanwhile, POTUS has taken to the Twittersphere to declare this 'Fake News' - well, he would , wooden't he ? LINK here for Unbelievers :
Errrr.... you're not so brain damaged as failing to realise that you're quoting a spoof news site similar to The Onion?
 
Well, looks like nothing has changed in the 40-odd pages since I was last here, watching half dozen school children accuse each other of nastiness in the playground.
 
Or indeed Bush Junior's carefully contrived time in the Air National Guard during the 'Nam...

George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Washingtonpost.com: At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard
Bush did serve though, unlike the other 2.
over 2.5 years training to be an officer, then a pilot, then a F-102 pilot.
US Draftees term of service was 2 years

by the way 28,000 US National guardsmen DID serve in RVN including ground units like Delta co, 151st Infantry(Ranger) which served as a LRRP unit and numerous Air Guard and USAFR units like NY's 136th Tactical Fighter Squadron (F-100)
 

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Bush did serve though, unlike the other 2.
over 2.5 years training to be an officer, then a pilot, then a F-102 pilot.
US Draftees term of service was 2 years

by the way 28,000 US National guardsmen DID serve in RVN including ground units like Delta co, 151st Infantry(Ranger) which served as a LRRP unit and numerous Air Guard and USAFR units like NY's 136th Tactical Fighter Squadron (F-100)
But Bush jnr didn't go did he?
 

Hmm.. taking a leaf out of Pershing's book, only problem is the Israeli's have asimilar aversion to that tastiest of meats PORK.
General Pershing, buried rebels, and pigs | pinoyhistory
snip "After an engagement with indigenous Muslim troops, where American troops came out ahead, General Pershing reportedly had the Moro fighters who were either killed in the battle or executed, buried in a mass grave -- along with dead pigs and drenched in pigs blood.
The legend also mentioned that one moro fighter who survived was made to watch the whole process, released, and told spread word about what had happed to the others -- presumably as a warning to others who would oppose American rule
"
 
Hmm.. taking a leaf out of Pershing's book, only problem is the Israeli's have asimilar aversion to that tastiest of meats PORK.
General Pershing, buried rebels, and pigs | pinoyhistory
snip "After an engagement with indigenous Muslim troops, where American troops came out ahead, General Pershing reportedly had the Moro fighters who were either killed in the battle or executed, buried in a mass grave -- along with dead pigs and drenched in pigs blood.
The legend also mentioned that one moro fighter who survived was made to watch the whole process, released, and told spread word about what had happed to the others -- presumably as a warning to others who would oppose American rule
"
Sadly untrue.

FACT CHECK: General Pershing on How to Stop Islamic Terrorists
 
Hmm.. taking a leaf out of Pershing's book, only problem is the Israeli's have asimilar aversion to that tastiest of meats PORK.
General Pershing, buried rebels, and pigs | pinoyhistory
snip "After an engagement with indigenous Muslim troops, where American troops came out ahead, General Pershing reportedly had the Moro fighters who were either killed in the battle or executed, buried in a mass grave -- along with dead pigs and drenched in pigs blood.
The legend also mentioned that one moro fighter who survived was made to watch the whole process, released, and told spread word about what had happed to the others -- presumably as a warning to others who would oppose American rule
"
PSYOPS works if done effectively. Religious beliefs are a core thing to Fu*ck with, and bacon is cheaper than slotting people. Granted it would piss them off like no other, but they are already an angry bunch as it stands. It would be an unorthodox and politically incorrect solution to the problem, but it is also better than the Black Eye the IDF did receive in the propaganda war.
 

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