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This is the sort of thing taught to children in Palestine they really have no chance with propaganda like this play for Palestinian children about how the Jews were responsible for the holocaust, and burned the Palestinians in ovens in WWII.
They did succeeded to push their narrative. No one cares that they themselves want their people to die. It's beyond the scope of Western mind.
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I've said no such thing actually. You fibber.

You ( and Oldbrick) do seem to be quite upset today.
Nope, just surprised by your hypocrisy - you started off decrying the cold-blooded murder of 50 innocent Pallys, only to discover most were Hamas rent-a-mob, you'd have thought at that point you'd say 'oh bugger, seems I was wrong, I was taken in by Hamas propaganda' but no, that's not human nature, though aligning yourself with the site's biggest anti-Semite (other than the KGB collective) seems a long way to go to 'save face' - are you Chinese by any chance? Still, if it makes you happy......
 
Nope, just surprised by your hypocrisy - you started off decrying the cold-blooded murder of 50 innocent Pallys, only to discover most were Hamas rent-a-mob, you'd have thought at that point you'd say 'oh bugger, seems I was wrong, I was taken in by Hamas propaganda' but no, that's not human nature, though aligning yourself with the site's biggest anti-Semite (other than the KGB collective) seems a long way to go to 'save face' - are you Chinese by any chance? Still, if it makes you happy......
He'll have to give himself a crying baby gif soon, for jumping to conclusions
 
You have a point but it's not always so, but then you get the likes of the Marxists in the Labour party where criticism about Israel is really because they hate the Jews due to their ideology

The problem is that once left-wingers succumb to the fallacy that Israel, rather than being a flawed democracy with a just national claim, is an oppressive colonialist state, they misunderstand far more than just the geopolitics. They also fail to grasp the connection of modern Jews with the Jewish state, and the moral imperative of ensuring that Jews must have a place of refuge.

And because, in a peculiar far-left heresy, Jewish history is destined to come to an end, there needs to be an explanation for why it hasn’t done so. The answer that some on the far left come to, lies in those grotesque cartoons of Jewish bankers. There is a thin line between modern anti-Zionism and antisemitism, and the reason the boundary is so porous is that these do have common ideological roots.
Which part of Marxist Ideology says hate Jews or any other Race for that matter....................Marxism is Class orientated and has nothing whatsoever to do with Race or Creed. Criticism of Israel on the grounds of forcable re-settlement of Arabs so that Israeli's can build homes isn't antisemitic neither is being outraged by the over reaction of IDF to demonstrations and stone throwing. The middle east situation is now too entrenched to end in a good way and the maintenance of the Isreali state by the Western powers will have to carry on but Israel has to realise that the more you repress someone the harder they fight back.
 
NI? I spent a month there one day getting a cat cremated - what an "interesting" place
 
Which part of Marxist Ideology says hate Jews or any other Race for that matter....................
Pretty much any part that was implemented by the likes of the Soviet Union, DDR, Poland, the Czech republic etc - or did they have 'The wrong sort of Marxist-Leninism? (c) Bugsy
 
Which part of Marxist Ideology says hate Jews or any other Race for that matter....................Marxism is Class orientated and has nothing whatsoever to do with Race or Creed. Criticism of Israel on the grounds of forcable re-settlement of Arabs so that Israeli's can build homes isn't antisemitic neither is being outraged by the over reaction of IDF to demonstrations and stone throwing. The middle east situation is now too entrenched to end in a good way and the maintenance of the Isreali state by the Western powers will have to carry on but Israel has to realise that the more you repress someone the harder they fight back.
Fair enough...but it typical for left wingers not to see their own antisemitsm. They can't even recognise National Socialism as on of their own for starters

In his 1843 essay, The Jewish Question, Marx, whose father converted from Judaism to Protestantism, equated emancipation from capitalism and Judaism as being one and the same. “Money is the jealous god of Israel” Marx wrote. “The god of the Jews has become secularised and has become the god of the world.” He jumbled together hostility to private property and capitalism, and his personal hatred of Jews as self-interested, rootless and enablers of secret control, updating miserable medieval tropes for the modern world. Once society succeeded in the preconditions of Capital, “the Jew will have become impossible [Marx’s italics],” perhaps the most profound example of bastardised pseudo-science in modern political history.


Marx ends with a final, rhetorical flourish. “The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism [again Marx’s italics].” In other words, the destruction of capitalism and Judaism are one and the same in the creation of a purer society. Only when one ceases to exist will the other be liberated from its false consciousness.

In denouncing Judaism and capitalism, Marx helped lay the intellectual foundations for the ethnically-based genocide of the National Socialists in Germany and the economically-based genocide in the USSR, although it should be said that the Soviets conducted ethnic genocides too. As well as the organised famine of the Ukrainians – arguably both economic and ethnic – this includes the mass expulsions of ethnic groups ranging from Lithuanians to Chechens in the 1940s. A second holocaust of the Jews, this time in the Soviet Union in the 1950s, was scrapped only with Stalin’s death.

Marx’s Anti-Semitism in The Jewish Question, in his private letters and in other works such as The Russian Loan, have been largely ignored by supporters. Occasionally, Left writers admit a structural problems with anti-Semitism (the hard Right has long since embraced it) but mask it with pious mitigations over the Left’s campaigning record on ‘good causes’.

That’s true, but only up to a point. The British intelligentsia has a dreadful record. It was co-opted by Stalin’s Popular Front in the 1930s, despite the mass murders taking place at the time. Left intellectuals such as the Fabians founders, Sidney and Beatrice Webb, helped suppress knowledge of the killings. Since then, many on the hard Left have embraced any two-bit revolutionary anti-capitalist thug.

The final, malign achievement of Marx was to update medieval anti-Semitism concepts for the modern era. In Europe from the late 19thcentury through to the mid 20th century, anti-Semitism and anti-capitalism swirled in unholy alliance. Marx wasn’t the only one responsible, but his rancid writings help explain why the hard Left and the hard Right swim in the same moral and intellectual cesspit.
 
Israeli "Citizens" (of which 20.7% are Arab) have equal rights - are you referring to the non-citizens residing in Israel and within the West Bank and east Jerusalem?
They're supposed to, but AIUI in practice they don't.

Much like the US saying that "all men are created equal" etc etc etc while owning slaves and not giving black people the vote.
 
I was sympathetic to your view right up until the final sentence, which displays the mindset of the desperate (much like I suspect many in Gaza feel, even without Hamas incitement) and makes your post 'utterly pathetic'.
Which is curious, becuase my final sentence was the view I've held most ardently in this thread.

I've been accused of being a Jew-hater (as opposed to an anti-Semite), neither of which are even remotely true. I take exception to that. @meerkatz should be grateful that he's not in a room with me.

It is a cowardly and puerile position to conflate opposition to Israeli policies with "hating Jews". FWIW, I'm of the opinion that the majority in the region are as bad as each other and, to a large extent, deserve each other. Israel is as much a theocracy as their regional neigbours, more so than others, less so than some. The fact it's a corrupt "democratic" theocracy is neither here nor there.

For those interested, which will be few, my main "beef" with Israel is its hypocrisy in claiming the "moral high ground", while simultaneously ignoring inernational law on the basis that it suits its immediate political/religious purposes to do so. Israel, without doubt, has the right to act in a manner that is best for it as a sovereign state. It should not, however, be permitted to flagrantly disregard international law while, at the same time, castigate others for not doing so. Were it not for the holocaust, Israel would have absolutely no "moral" defence. To many, Israel's actions in violation of civilised norms, while claiming the moral high ground, are unpalatable in the extreme.

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Nope, just surprised by your hypocrisy - you started off decrying the cold-blooded murder of 50 innocent Pallys, only to discover most were Hamas rent-a-mob, you'd have thought at that point you'd say 'oh bugger, seems I was wrong, I was taken in by Hamas propaganda' but no, that's not human nature, though aligning yourself with the site's biggest anti-Semite (other than the KGB collective) seems a long way to go to 'save face' - are you Chinese by any chance? Still, if it makes you happy......
Hamas propaganda..

Ever considered that you might be falling victim to it yourself?

Are we now supposed to believe what Hamas spout? I thought the Pavlovian thing to do was just discount whatever they said?

Or do you only do that if it runs counter to your preconception?

And I'm not aligning myself with an anti Semite, you silly. Its just that I agreed with one thing he said.

You do seem upset.
 

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