ID the gun

old_bloke said:
Any ideas? With the Russian /Ukranian as well?



is it a boyes anti tank rifle? not to sure could be a vickers, not got janes to hand sorry
.30 Browning MG in infantry configuration. One of these monsters was borrowed from an armoured car and stealthily lugged up Jebel Akhdar by PDLB and Them to flush out the Adoo (at least that's what he wrote in his book)
Happy Holiday everyone.
Sorry was lazy and got confused thought it was a copy of the Stinger.


For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving with Company A, First Battalion, Twenty-Eighth Marines, Fifth Marine Division, in action against enemy Japanese forces on Iwo Jima, in the Volcano Island, February 19, 1945. The first man of his unit to be on station after hitting the beach in the initial assault, Corporal Stein, armed with a personally improvised aircraft-type weapon, provided rapid covering fire as the remainder of his platoon attempted to move into position and, when his comrades were stalled by a concentrated machine-gun and mortar barrage, gallantly stood upright and exposed himself to the enemy's view, thereby drawing the hostile fire to his own person and enabling him to observe the location of the furiously blazing hostile guns. Determined to neutralize the strategically placed weapons, he boldly charged the enemy pillboxes one by one and succeeded in killing twenty of the enemy during the furious single-handed assault. Cool and courageous under the merciless hail of exploding shells and bullets which fell on all sides, he continued to deliver the fire of his skillfully improvised weapon at a tremendous rate of speed which rapidly exhausted his ammunition. Undaunted, he removed his helmet and shoes to expedite his movements and ran back to the beach for additional ammunition, making a total of eight trips under intense fire and carrying or assisting a wounded man back each time. Despite the unrelenting savagery and confusion of battle, he rendered prompt assistance to his platoon whenever the unit was in position, directing the fire of a half-track against a stubborn pillbox until he had effected the ultimate destruction of the Japanese fortification. Later in the day, although his weapon was twice shot from his hands, he personally covered the withdrawal of his platoon to the company position. Stouthearted and indomitable, Corporal Stein, by his aggressive initiative, sound judgment and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of terrific odds, contributed materially to the fulfillment of his mission, and his outstanding valor throughout the bitter hours of conflict sustained and enhanced the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.
Wow, wow, wow. Well worth reading at least twice.

Head of the queue for Nails, methinks.

CMH, I assume?
EX_STAB said:
That is some Citation!
What a citation and what a physical feat! Those things weigh a ton - when I was in we used them mounted on M113's and half-tracks - running and fighting alone with it as if its's a Bren or summat defies belief.
Cpl. Tony Stein, USMC- KIA 1 March, 1945- 2 weeks after the action for which he was to recieve the Medal of Honor.
He was Killed by Japanese Machine gun fire while on a Recce to locate those same guns holding up the advance of his company.

He was 23
I remember reading about this weapon in one of the Purnell history of WW2 books, the Yanks were casting about for a proper LMG as the BAR wasn't as good as they thought it would be, this was the compromise,

'Attempts were then made to make a light machine gun from the air cooled M 1917A4 gun by stripping off as much weight as possible, putting on a light barrel, a shoulder stock, and a small bipod, which the Infantry Board piously hoped would result in a satisfactory LMG. It did not, of course, it produced a rather horrid bastard which weighed over 32lbs and lacked power in the mechanism. It was adopted on 17/2/43.

John Weeks, Infantry Weapons.
Close, it there is no M1917A4, the 1917 series were the Watercooled Heavy guns used at Weapons company level in each Battalion. The M1919A4 with 2 per Company was what the A6 was developed from. Indeed it was a compromise that really wasnt very good. Besides the lighter barrel, the top cover latch & various internal bits were lightened but it still was heavier than the original without the M2 tripod.

The Orthodox Priest may be in for a Hell of a shock if he were firing it with live ammo as his support hand is over the opening for the expended cases as they ride down the "T" slot. It's a Std. US Issue with improved Boostercap/flash suppressor and bipod. The IDF version has a Bipod which can be positioned along the barrel jacket at whim and has a lateral adjustment capability for engaging flanking targets. A Friend from my unit owns one of these(along with a M1917A1) and shoots them regularly.

The Stinger Stein used is close to what Colt actually proposed for the A6 trials, as it was based off a AN-M2 as well.
In addition, the Stinger, due to its aircraft origins, had a very high cyclic rate (avg. 1300 rpm--100 rpm faster than the better known canvas-ripper Maschinengewehr MG-42) so anyone using one not only had to be a physical stud but had to have a finely tuned trigger finger to make the ammo last! They also had to have a high pain threshold due to the heat from the thing.
For those (in the US) who want a replica:

1919 A6 .308 Semi-Auto
Code: 1008
Price: $1,399.95
Quantity in Basket: none
"Semi-auto version of the Famous Browning 1919 A6 . belt fed .308. All of the standard features of the 1919 A4 with added butt stock, carry handle, and flash hider. Made in the US. Great for collectors! Spade grip available in the parts section.. FFL Required. (Girl at slight additional cost)
In in the IDF the nineteen eighties the 0.30, in 7.62 x 51, minus butt and bipod - was still performing very well as the coax on many tanks but was gradually replaced by the MAG. The infantry ones performed less well being prone to stoppages. We presumed that the tankies took better care of theirs, which were mounted safely in turrets rather than being lugged around in the dirt.
Having to headspace them was a drag too.
Another Christmas bonus for those who don't the heft of the real 1919 LMG:

jumpinjarhead said:
Christmas bonus:

Who can ID this fairly ugly gun:

Jap Type 11(Taishō)
6.5mm Arisaka
Fed from stripper clips in the hopper
Theoretically any rifleman in the section/squad could offer ammo up. In practice a reduced powder charge round was used
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