Ian Huntley and other dangerous offenders.....

#1
A few searching questions..... If someone told you the following.....

If someone killed my child, i'd do everything in my power to hunt them down and kill them!

OK.... Some will agree and some will be outraged at that? Hmmm... democratic free speech and society lets us say that tho does it not? Something to reflect on and research? Where does free speech cross over into breaking the law?

Would rehabilitation work with offenders like Huntley Et Al?
What is the answer to someone who cannot be rehabilited?
Can they be rehabilited at all?
Will a comfy cell with DVDs/X-Box, 3 meals a day, and plenty of activities to keep them fit and healthy do justice, or lock them in a dark cell 24 hrs, with nothing but 4 walls, sink/loo/bed. Or to save tax payers money, and just execute those who commit such evil crimes?
 
#2
The answer is not rehabilitation but punishment and deterrence.

Kill them.... preferably in the same manner that they inflict on their victims.. and any human rights lawyers that may object.
 
#3
Child killers/peados = Death penalty. End of.
 
#4
Slot 'em all. Just make sure this cunt is first.

 
#5
Just Fecking Torture them slowly by breaking, ankles, knees, elbows then kill um

Once they are gone they are no longer a burden on society

Magic
 
#6
BrokenArrow said:
Slot 'em all. Starting with this cunt.

Looks like Ian's been getting more than 3 meals a day...
 
#7
dangerousdave said:
A few searching questions..... If someone told you the following.....

If someone killed my child, i'd do everything in my power to hunt them down and kill them!

OK.... Some will agree and some will be outraged at that? Hmmm... democratic free speech and society lets us say that tho does it not? Something to reflect on and research? Where does free speech cross over into breaking the law?

Would rehabilitation work with offenders like Huntley Et Al?
What is the answer to someone who cannot be rehabilited?
Can they be rehabilited at all?
Will a comfy cell with DVDs/X-Box, 3 meals a day, and plenty of activities to keep them fit and healthy do justice, or lock them in a dark cell 24 hrs, with nothing but 4 walls, sink/loo/bed. Or to save tax payers money, and just execute those who commit such evil crimes?
Just to answer some of your points, you say you would hunt down and kill the person, You wouldn't get the chance or opportunity when has it ever?
When does free speach break the law? When you start inciting.
Rehabilitation for Huntley is impossible because he will in his lifetime in prison become institutionalized like all lifers. Besides which his motives ( in my OPINION) were sexual, even though the bodies were too badly de-composed to tell.
Treating prisoners like animals is what they used to do, and I admit in the short term they were cheaper, however in the 80's does no one else remember the riots that led to whole prison's needing to be re-built? That WASN'T cheaper now was it?
Besides which only a small amount of prisoners will never see freedom again, I believe it's less than a hundred as whole life tarif, If that's so if you do lock them up in a dark cell for x amaount of years and then release them what happens then as they are raping and killing you, your mam, wife daughter pet hamster?
 
#9
DD

You posed an emotive question, what do you expect.

Magic
 
#10
devilish said:
Child killers/peados = Death penalty. End of.
So IF we had the death penalty when the Jamie Bulger killers were convicted and they were sentenced to death at 10 yrs old, wouldnt that make the executioner a child killer :?
 
#11
I have for years backed the death penalty, but after seeing news article; maybe we should keep a few prisoners like Huntley inside for the amusement of the other prisoners.

A big thank you to all those prisoners who are making his sentence hell. (He'll probably get compo or early release and an apology. Lets hope its early release so the general public get to play with him too.)
 
#12
It cost somewhere in the region of £100,000 a year to keep the likes of Huntley, Brady, Black, etc.

there are an average of 79 child killings per year for the last 25 years. Add that little lot up and you've saved £197,500,000 in 25 years.

I'm sure I could spend that on something that actually enriches society rather than try to rehabilitate scum like them.

1 round each at 30 shiny pence x 79 x 25 = £590.50.


Send me the bill.
 
#13
llech said:
devilish said:
Child killers/peados = Death penalty. End of.
So IF we had the death penalty when the Jamie Bulger killers were convicted and they were sentenced to death at 10 yrs old, wouldnt that make the executioner a child killer :?
No it makes him an executioner. nothing else. the Bulger killers were child killers ergo they die for their crime. the executioner is carrying out his job for the great and good of the law abiding citizens of this country.
 
#14
The_Magician said:
DD

You posed an emotive question, what do you expect.

Magic
Hence, why this is in this forum and not the Intel/Naffi forums.
As i am in healthcare myself, i would appreciate the opinions of any professionally qualified posters who have a view point on the subject :)
 
#15
dangerousdave said:
The_Magician said:
DD

You posed an emotive question, what do you expect.

Magic
Hence, why this is in this forum and not the Intel/Naffi forums.
As i am in healthcare myself, i would appreciate the opinions of any professionally qualified posters who have a view point on the subject :)
If you want a reasonable debate on this I'm afaraid it's unlikley, As some seem to view the death penalty as an option, it isn't and can't ever be again.
 
#16
llech said:
dangerousdave said:
The_Magician said:
DD

You posed an emotive question, what do you expect.

Magic
Hence, why this is in this forum and not the Intel/Naffi forums.
As i am in healthcare myself, i would appreciate the opinions of any professionally qualified posters who have a view point on the subject :)
If you want a reasonable debate on this I'm afaraid it's unlikley, As some seem to view the death penalty as an option, it isn't and can't ever be again.
Considering the OP gave execution as an option at the end of his original post, then I'm considering it as an option.
 
#17
Rehabilitation works for some, not for others; if it's a matter of burglary, general toe-raggery etc then prehaps recidivism isn't so big a deal. If it's a child murderer then, especially in a case like this with a sexual elemant, they don't get released to protect the public.

Repulsive as Huntley is, he's not classed by the shrinks in the same league as the Sutcliffes, Hindleys, Bradys, Wests etc. They planned sadistic murders as an end in themselves, whilst Huntley appears to have been a sexual predator who tried to interfere with the girls, then panicked and killed them when they objected. In other words, a child molestor and killer but not a sexual-sadist killer. Won't make any dofference though. They'll never let the fecker out.

I'd be all for the death penalty in cases where there was no doubt - but whilst people could be fitted up like that poor sod Stefan Kiszcko, it's not going to happen.
 
#18
devilish said:
It cost somewhere in the region of £100,000 a year to keep the likes of Huntley, Brady, Black, etc.

there are an average of 79 child killings per year for the last 25 years. Add that little lot up and you've saved £197,500,000 in 25 years.

I'm sure I could spend that on something that actually enriches society rather than try to rehabilitate scum like them.

1 round each at 30 shiny pence x 79 x 25 = £590.50.


Send me the bill.
Of all the resons to reintroduce the death penalty, cost saving is I think far the crappest.

But if you are really serious about cost savings, I reckon you could save even more using a really big hammer.

All the best,

John.
 
#20
this sort of question got me through AOSB at Westbury

All candidates sit in a semi-circle and fire questions at one another in order to start a debate.
Having previously worked in HM P Durham (aka Fraggle Rock) I had a slight edge when one candidtae mentioned about murders, paedos etc should be tattoo'd, labelled etc upon release

I unfortunately played 'devils advocate' and stated that once the offender had been rehabilitated, deemed safe for release and was back in the community - they have served their time and are free citizens again.

Talk about light blue touch paper and stand well clear - conversation went on for 15 minutes im sure!


When you work with these 'individuals' you treat them all equally, and you never get to know/want to know what they are in for - except the high catergory/high risks

Yes it does cost a fortune to keep them legally confined - but such is one of the costs of our modern society
 

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