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I will form War Cabinet - Cameron

#1
Having already promised to make the war in Afghanistan a top priority, he says he would replicate the U.S. National Security office by creating a British 'war Cabinet'.

This would be done in his very first meeting in office, he pledged, and would contain top ministers, armed forces and intelligence chiefs.

'Our military is at war in Afghanistan but, quite frankly, Whitehall isn't. If I'm Prime Minister, Whitehall will go to war from minute one, hour one, day one that I walk through the door of Downing Street,' he said.
He certainly seems to be talking the talk - but will he walk the walk???
 
#2
lewiscollins said:
Having already promised to make the war in Afghanistan a top priority, he says he would replicate the U.S. National Security office by creating a British 'war Cabinet'.

This would be done in his very first meeting in office, he pledged, and would contain top ministers, armed forces and intelligence chiefs.

'Our military is at war in Afghanistan but, quite frankly, Whitehall isn't. If I'm Prime Minister, Whitehall will go to war from minute one, hour one, day one that I walk through the door of Downing Street,' he said.
He certainly seems to be talking the talk - but will he walk the walk???
No. He's a showboater
 
#3
Roger_The_Cat said:
No. He's a showboater
Agreed. Without a clearly articulated aim and a firm commitment to resourcing it properly, this is just window-dressing. A 'War Cabinet' won't make the slightest difference unless we have a root and branch attitude adjustment at political and military levels in the way the Yanks did.
 
#4
smartascarrots said:
Roger_The_Cat said:
No. He's a showboater
Agreed. Without a clearly articulated aim and a firm commitment to resourcing it properly, this is just window-dressing. A 'War Cabinet' won't make the slightest difference unless we have a root and branch attitude adjustment at political and military levels in the way the Yanks did.
At the risk of being a bit naive, isn't that what he said?

'Our military is at war in Afghanistan but, quite frankly, Whitehall isn't. If I'm Prime Minister, Whitehall will go to war from minute one, hour one, day one that I walk through the door of Downing Street,'
 
#5
even though i think quite lowly of cameron, i think he will really give it a good go if he makes PM. I think this is their only shot in power, especially if he F*cks everything up.

chances are good that he will do really really well.
 
#6
zubrzycki said:
even though i think quite lowly of cameron, i think he will really give it a good go if he makes PM. I think this is their only shot in power, especially if he F*cks everything up.

chances are good that he will do really really well.

WWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
#7
Strait_Jacket said:
smartascarrots said:
Roger_The_Cat said:
No. He's a showboater
Agreed. Without a clearly articulated aim and a firm commitment to resourcing it properly, this is just window-dressing. A 'War Cabinet' won't make the slightest difference unless we have a root and branch attitude adjustment at political and military levels in the way the Yanks did.
At the risk of being a bit naive, isn't that what he said?

'Our military is at war in Afghanistan but, quite frankly, Whitehall isn't. If I'm Prime Minister, Whitehall will go to war from minute one, hour one, day one that I walk through the door of Downing Street,'
He didn't say anything about it. He hinted, like a fan-dancer before a crowd of sweating drunks.

He did not say, "We will clearly articulate our desired end-state by X date, decide our level of commitment by Y date and create whatever structures or funding we need to in order to support same until it is achieved."

He did not say "Committing our men and women in harms way is the most serious undertaking of any government and therefore we will make it our nation's number one priority or remove them from the field."

He also did not say "This war is not important enough to become our nation's number one priority, therefore we will treat it accordingly."

I don't like buying a pig in a poke and this chap's reputation for saying what he thinks ought to be said instead of what he thinks or believes doesn't make me sanguine.
 
#9
A lot of people make the point that DC is all talk - but as the opposition that's pretty much all he can do unless or until he gets put into power.

I personally reckon Cyclops is on a scorched earth policy to f*** up as much as he can now to try and make sure Cons have a hard time of it and Labour get re-elected after a term.

Given the complete mess of public finances Cameron does have his work cut out if he gets in but I'm glad at least that this early he is making the right noises. He has some pretty sound ex-mil types in the party and if he lets them loose in the MOD surely it can only be a good thing.
 
#10
KGB_resident said:
Davie boy could act just now. He could ask his supporters to leave comfortable armchairs and to join armed forces to die somewhere in Helmand.
just curious. What or who do you work for?
 

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#12
spurtle said:
KGB_resident said:
Davie boy could act just now. He could ask his supporters to leave comfortable armchairs and to join armed forces to die somewhere in Helmand.
just curious. What or who do you work for?
the clue is in the User Name :D :twisted:
 
#14
spurtle said:
KGB_resident said:
Davie boy could act just now. He could ask his supporters to leave comfortable armchairs and to join armed forces to die somewhere in Helmand.
just curious. What or who do you work for?
For my family Spurtle.

A war is a standard method for powerkeepers to divert attention of population from economical hardship. Why do you think Argentinian junta unleashed the war?

The Conservatives plan to cut taxes for the rich, for corporations and to low the budget deficit. How it is possible? Of course at expense of the poor, at expense of hard working majority.

So what an explanation would be proposed? Britain is at war... It is so simple.
 
#15
KGB_resident said:
The Conservatives plan to cut taxes for the rich, for corporations and to low the budget deficit. How it is possible? Of course at expense of the poor, at expense of hard working majority.
You are aware that sometimes cutting taxes can sometimes increase the total take?

Either people work longer hours as they get to keep more money for themselves, or there is less incentive to pay accountants to find loopholes to keep your money out of Gordons paw's.
 
#16
lewiscollins said:
Having already promised to make the war in Afghanistan a top priority, he says he would replicate the U.S. National Security office by creating a British 'war Cabinet'.

This would be done in his very first meeting in office, he pledged, and would contain top ministers, armed forces and intelligence chiefs.

'Our military is at war in Afghanistan but, quite frankly, Whitehall isn't. If I'm Prime Minister, Whitehall will go to war from minute one, hour one, day one that I walk through the door of Downing Street,' he said.
He certainly seems to be talking the talk - but will he walk the walk???
I hope he learns a lesson from Mrs. Thatcher: no Chancellor or Treasury 'mandarin' in the 'War Cabinet'.

We must get future Chancellors to:

'.. do as they are told. Get on with it and find the money - or re-join the back-benches'.
 
#18
lewiscollins said:
A lot of people make the point that DC is all talk - but as the opposition that's pretty much all he can do unless or until he gets put into power.

I personally reckon Cyclops is on a scorched earth policy to f*** up as much as he can now to try and make sure Cons have a hard time of it and Labour get re-elected after a term.

Given the complete mess of public finances Cameron does have his work cut out if he gets in but I'm glad at least that this early he is making the right noises. He has some pretty sound ex-mil types in the party and if he lets them loose in the MOD surely it can only be a good thing.
Totally agree, Cyclops is doing his level best to pull the roof down on UK Plc even the nightmare scenario of a Labour and Libdims coalition is horrific.
As to what DC says at the moment that is all he can do, Cyclops has for the last 12 years done just that Talk and in the process trashed the nation. So for Gods sake give someone else a shot before we all become a third world nation, I would be tempted to vote Mugabe rather than this motley crew, tossers the lot of them!!!
 
#20
pimpernel said:
Closet_Jibber said:
How about giving us a firm answer on The EU you slimy cnut!
We are talking Brown arn't we? I think the Irish are going to seal our fate if they say Yes.
We know Comrade Browns answer. He wants us to live in The United Communist State of Europe under the rule of President Tony.

Cameron like most politicians made alot of noise on the subject but then recently (As the elections draw closer) started to show signs of his bottle going on the issue.

They're all as bad as eachother. Blue Labour are going to be as bad as New Labour and I'm popping smoke!
 

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