I want to work.

Discussion in 'Jobs (Discussion)' started by intothesilk2, Feb 26, 2008.

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  1. Having been made redundant last December (for the 3rd time running) after 10 years service with my employer and having only 5 years to push before I retire, I thought it would be easy with my past work record to secure a decent job for the remainder of my working career. How wrong was I?. Having sent my CV and a covering letter to over 100 employment agencies I have had to date, one phone call, one interview with a prospective employer (who never informed me that I never got the job), and one offer of a job as a cleaner (I applied for an office job).

    I have come to the conclusion that ageism in the employment sector is still rife contrary to other reports. I think that employment agencies and company personnel have a mental picture stamped in their mind of people my age (60 in April). My CV (in bold) with the real meaning following.

    I am a mature, reliable person who has an excellent work record. (This means I am over 25 and still breathing without being attached to an iron lung, I have all my own teeth, all the hair (not grey) I had when I was 20, do not carry a colostomy bag and am not incontinent and I turn up for work every day without resorting to a Zimmer frame and I have been employed ALL my life and have never drawn the dole).

    Confident, organised and smart in appearance, I work well on my own or as part of a team. (This means I can tie my own shoelaces and comb my own hair, I can place one sheet of paper on top of another and replace items from where they came from, I wear a crisp fresh clean shirt and tie with pressed trousers every day along with polished shoes. Given any task of my own I give 100% and not slack off when nobody is looking and am a first class player in a team (Army trained)).

    I take pride in my work and would be an asset to any company / organisation. ( I do the job to the best of my ability as always, I will not spend all day surfing the net on the PC or arranging my social life on the company telephone all day).

    DOB: 28/04/1948, British, married, no dependants, full driving licence. ( This means I was born after World War 2 not the War of the Roses, I am not an illegal, my children are not leaching off of me, and I have a real driving licence (and proper insurance)).

    So what is the answer? Do I have to take on a menial job with the lowest wage because other people see me as a grey stooped OAP who is past his prime or is there an employer out there who will give my last 5 years at work meaning. Work record and copy of CV on request.
     
  2. Become a gay Muslim. Lose a limb. Dye your skin dark brown. Bin your Passport and claim that you're an immigrant. You'll be MD of ICI before you know it.
     
  3. Take your date of birth off the CV....
     
  4. The reality is that very few companies have any interest in employing any one over the age of 50-55 these days unless it is on short term contract. Sad really as people like you and me have a lot to offer. I re4ckon if my present employers gave me the push now the best I could get would be B&Q at a little over the minimum wage.
     
  5. msr

    msr LE

  6. Having the same problems mate. I get phone calls "wow, great CV, great qualifications, definitely find you a position, oh by the way, how old are you" "OK" "We'll ring you back shortly" ........... never get that phone call. Got an interview last week, blatantly the best by far, but they want a graduate, i.e. a young person.
     
  7. 100 agencies? That’s far too many for you too manage, for starters:

    1)Choose 5 that specialise in your area of work.
    2)Pay some money and get a professional CV done - this should be done by one of the chosen agencies as computers are used to target CV's and if you CV does not have the "correct" words in it then you will not pass go.
    3) Hound the agencies about jobs you have applied for, become such a pain they will want you off their books.
    4) In the meantime get a temping job in a relevant area to keep your hand in and not appear to be a lazy git.
    5)Redo step 2 if no results after a month
    6) Keep doing step three.
     
  8. Well are we not lead to believe that the there is meant to be no ageism? Its now against the employment rules to discriminate against a person on there age? If you take your date of birth off your CV. Then you will probably get the interview, then when they say sorry your too old take them to a tribunual.

    After sending out your CV to a hundred agencies did you chase them up and keep in contact them, because the vast marjority will only help you in your job hunting if you keep on top of them as they know you re looking for work (also remind them that if they place you in a vacancy they will earn their commission).

    If you post out your CV to the agencies, then go in to them a couple of days later to register with them.

    If all else fails, become a Polish citizen, then you can forget to speak English, hey presto you get a job.

    Stilts
     
  9. We all know there is new legislation about ageism but I also know that a company will nearly always find a way round it, mostly by these psychometric tests which, according to someone in the Institute of Directors, are no good, but can be designed to meet specific requirements, age being one of them.
    Every time I take age of my CV, the recruitment company's ring up and ask for it, almost as a pre-cursor to throwing it in the bin, or at least that is how it seems.

    HO hum, keep trying
     
  10. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    1. Take out all info that relates to age.

    2. Tell the wife you need to retire and she should get a better job to keep you in the style you would like to become accustomed to.
     
  11. Yes age discrimination is illegal, but that in itself does not stop it and many companies will carry on just as they did until there are a few high profile cases which sho that doing it will both be expensive and get them bad PR. The law has changed but real life lags behind quite a bit. Equally remember hiring people costs quite a lot especially if they use agencies so companies prefer to think they will not have to replace you in the near future.
     
  12. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    I have gone down route 2. (BuggerAll apparently was the answer I gave when somebody at the Hash asked me what I did) Its not all its cracked up to be. You still need something to do, and at 45 I'm finding I'm too old even though my Graduatship is brand spanking new.
     
  13. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    Thats just idle. You could always take up golf and there is always BLESMA/SSAFA/RBL who are always looking for case workers and the like.

    I suggested route 2 but the Kitchen Gestapo refuses to take on a second job.
     
  14. If you have a few bob stashed away, start your own business, all being well, you'll wonder why you didnt do it before. PM me if you need some help. Good Luck
     
  15. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Already play Golf and Hash, I'm training to be a motorcycle instructor and I have my own business mounting medals (although it not very active) as well as being a STAB and a CFAV.