"I want My England" - True or False?

#1
There's an email circulating which reads:

ENGLAND - I think this really sums it all up.

After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!

After learning that the British Red Cross shops were instructed not to display Christmas decorations lest they cause offence. (A move which cost them my support thereafter.)

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered. You try it!

After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen and published in a British newspaper.

IMMIGRANTS. NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT.

Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of England being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.. If St.George's cross offends you, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!!

You asked to be here.. So accept the country that accepted YOU. Pretty easy really, when you think about it..

If we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

No matter how many times you receive it... please forward it to all you know
I pretty much agree with the sentiments but haven't sent this on because I don't know how true any of this is.

I emailed a woman called Webb listed on the the British Red Cross site (her email is BWebb@redcross.org.uk) asking if their part was true but 7 days on have yet to receive a reply, which does make me wonder........

I've tried Googling other parts but had no success. Can we 'Mythbust' the references in the first part of the email, and confirm if any are true?
 
#2
JoeCivvie said:
There's an email circulating which reads:

All the usual stuff.......

I've tried Googling other parts but had no success. Can we 'Mythbust' the references in the first part of the email, and confirm if any are true?

You have tried Googling and can't find it?????????

You are joking right???


This is on the BNP's, Stormfront's, Thisismyengland and every other far right wing lunatics site, not to mention blogged on the Torygraph and Mails sites.

It is even converted to support the Australians on a Singapore chat site.


Not to mention the number of times that it has been posted on here.
 
#3
I've seen a similar e-mail circulating here adjusted for American audiences so I'm guessing it probably isn't completely true. I'm kind of buying in to their theme though. :wink:
 
#4
Ruckerwocman said:
I've seen a similar e-mail circulating here adjusted for American audiences so I'm guessing it probably isn't completely true. I'm kind of buying in to their theme though. :wink:
Given this:

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.
and this:

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life,
I would not be surprised at all if it was originally American rewritten in English. I'm not certain that we have a 'National Motto' and we don't really have 'Our Pledge' (apart from the polish) even if you count the new Nationality ceremonies.

I think that this was brought up last time as well.
 
#6
Gremlin said:
You have tried Googling and can't find it?????????

You are joking right???
I obviously didn't explain myself properly. Yes, of course I can find the whole text with Google. DOH!

What I meant was are the various facts stated in the first part of the email true? Hence my emailing the British Red Cross to ask them if their part was true - and getting no reply.
 
#7
Thanks, Awol - Snopes is usually my first port of call with 'iffy' emails, but I never thought to check this one.
 
#8
Its not that difficult to discern that it isn't British...

ENGLAND - I think this really sums it all up.

After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!

After learning that the British Red Cross shops were instructed not to display Christmas decorations lest they cause offence. (A move which cost them my support thereafter.)

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered. You try it! Have you tried getting a driving licence from Birmingham council? Its a pretty tricky business.

After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen and published in a British newspaper.

IMMIGRANTS. NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT.

Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of England being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.. If St.George's cross offends you, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.I'm intrigued as to what Our Pledge and Our National Motto are

We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!!

You asked to be here.. So accept the country that accepted YOU. Pretty easy really, when you think about it..

If we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

No matter how many times you receive it... please forward it to all you know
What a pile of hysterical tripe.
 
#9
barbs said:
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

I'm intrigued as to what Our Pledge and Our National Motto are
I believe that's the bit that originally said "In God we trust!" but someone from the groups previously mentioned obviously had one more than the usual single braincell and did their best to make it British by removing the more American bits. As you observed though, they didn't do too well when researching where we get driving licences from! :roll:
 
#12
I put my xmas lights up last night and within 20 minutes I'd had a visit from the local Constabulary. Apparently my lights were 'offensive' to my neighbours who are originally from Africa. I was confused and understandably irate until the copper pointed out I'd accidently spelled out, in my innocence, 'Fcuk off home niggers'
 
#13
FiveAlpha said:
I put my xmas lights up last night and within 20 minutes I'd had a visit from the local Constabulary. Apparently my lights were 'offensive' to my neighbours who are originally from Africa. I was confused and understandably irate until the copper pointed out I'd accidently spelled out, in my innocence, 'Fcuk off home niggers'
Funny, I had the same issue with my new bumper sticker that apperantly read "fok jou hottentot kaffir". Some people can find racism anywhere. Such as shame we live in such a sensitive world.
 
#15
Quoting the list "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered. You try it!"
Since when did Birmingham council issue driving licences :?
 
#16
socialhandgrenade247 said:
Quoting the list "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered. You try it!"
Since when did Birmingham council issue driving licences :?
Birmingham, Alabama maybe.

It would fit the tone of the email as well.
 
#17
If you agree with sentiments then what is wrong with adapting it, just take out the incorrect stuff.

What is wrong with having values and beliefs? Ok the champagne socialists obviously think that we should valuing others beliefs but it is wrong to have our own.

For Christ sake get some morale fibre and backbone this is what is wrong with this bloody country, apathy rules supreme so the fucking socialists can Carte blanche impose a GDR type state on us.

I honestly believe that the day will come when England will be abolished and it will be the fault of the gutless wonders.
 
#18
pandaplodder said:
If you agree with sentiments then what is wrong with adapting it, just take out the incorrect stuff.
Incorrect stuff or lies?

What is wrong with having values and beliefs? Ok the champagne socialists obviously think that we should valuing others beliefs but it is wrong to have our own.
Lying is a value, is it?
 
#19
jimmys_best_mate said:
Has any British city ever actually not put up Christmas lights 'in case it offends'?
That's exactly the point of this thread - are any of the examples in the first section genuine?

I've tried Googling for "Primary School + Birmingham + England shirt" (plus variations) but all I get are references to the same email.

As previously mentioned, the Red Cross haven't deigned to answer so I do wonder.
 
#20
ottar said:
pandaplodder said:
If you agree with sentiments then what is wrong with adapting it, just take out the incorrect stuff.
Incorrect stuff or lies?

What is wrong with having values and beliefs? Ok the champagne socialists obviously think that we should valuing others beliefs but it is wrong to have our own.
Lying is a value, is it?
I said taking out the incorrect stuff knob head, there are perfectly acceptable sentiments, but not doubt your one of the closet Zanu Labour types that thinks even Soldiers Creed is totally wrong
 

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