I think the Iraqis are going to be fine...

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Splendid instead of a working government infrastucture schools or hospitals we give them the western gift of practical jokes
Anyone fancy joining me in a verse of Rule Britannia
 
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Splendid instead of a working government infrastucture schools or hospitals we give them the western gift of practical jokes
Anyone fancy joining me in a verse of Rule Britannia
You really are a cock, aren't you.
 
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Ricks in FP was not amused. he links to the NYT:
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The show “Put Him in [Camp] Bucca” has drawn numerous protests but has stayed on air throughout the fasting month, broadcasting its “stings” on well-known Iraqi personalities.

All of them were ensnared by being invited to the headquarters of the private television station Al Baghdadia to be interviewed, but en route to the station a fake bomb would be planted in their car while they were being searched by Iraqi soldiers, who were in on the deception.
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Soldier : “Which group you are working for?”

Television Host: “Al Qaeda for sure.”

Guest: “I am an actor. What are you saying? Is this a game or what?”

Soldier: “This a military checkpoint. What do you think we are playing here? You have got a bomb in your car.”

Television Host: “Why are you doing this? Why are you putting me in such trouble?”

Guest: “I am a family man. I have two kids. How could I do this to my family? I am telling you the truth, it’s not me who planted the bomb.”
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Knowing the sort of "pranks" they are fond of in Iraqi run prisons I'm sure such encounters causes a few brown dishdasha moments. Iraqi humor has always been rather robust. It's nice after losing tens of thousands of dead to bearded dingbats they now find terrorism amusing. Shame we didn't think of it during The Troubles, just think Frank Carson being dragged off to Castlereagh for a spot of RUC chiropracty.

Nir Rosen also in FP is surprisingly perky on What America Left Behind in Iraq
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Seven years after the disastrous American invasion, the cruelest irony in Iraq is that, in a perverse way, the neoconservative dream of creating a moderate, democratic U.S. ally in the region to counterbalance Iran and Saudi Arabia has come to fruition. But even if violence in Iraq continues to decline and the government becomes a model of democracy, no one will look to Iraq as a leader. People in the region remember -- even if the West has forgotten -- the seven years of chaos, violence, and terror. To them, this is what Iraq symbolizes. Thanks to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and other failed U.S. policies in the broader Middle East, the United States has lost most of its influence on Arab people, even if it can still exert pressure on some Arab regimes.

Last week, the Western media descended upon Iraq for one last embed, for a look at the "legacy," to ask Iraqis whether it was "worth it." On the night of August 31st, I overheard one American TV producer trying to find an Iraqi family that would be watching Obama's speech on Iraq live. Obama's speech was aired at 3 a.m. in Baghdad. But Obama did not address Iraqis in his speech. And they weren't interested, anyway. Most Iraqis were awake at that hour, but they were lying in bed sweltering, unable to sleep, waiting for the electricity to come back on so they could power their air conditioners.
Doesn't sound so bad. Freedoms march was always dangerous bolloks liable to wreck our interests in the region.Given a bit of luck it might be Lebanon by mid century. Ordinary Arabs lost faith in DC back in LBJ's day, all that's changed is the level on contempt.
 
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Splendid instead of a working government infrastucture schools or hospitals we give them the western gift of practical jokes
Anyone fancy joining me in a verse of Rule Britannia
It could have been worse... we gave most of our ex-colonies socialism.
 
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It could have been worse... we gave most of our ex-colonies socialism.
A fair shake for the working man versus a neocon installed ruler who will execute anyone who dissents or interfers with profits.
Yes sounds good doesnt it
 
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Ashie, by socialism, what is meant is generally meant is dictatorship and equality of misery for everyone not part of the ruling elite, not " a fair shake for the working man".

The fairest shake for the working man (as oposed to the feckless and idle man) is generally provided by capitalism.
 
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Ashie, by socialism, what is meant is generally meant is dictatorship and equality of misery for everyone not part of the ruling elite, not " a fair shake for the working man".

The fairest shake for the working man (as oposed to the feckless and idle man) is generally provided by capitalism.
Here ****ing here.

Ashie, nice to see the current bunch of ***** in charge of Slovenia have slipped up:

Mass grave of 700 people found in Slovenia - Telegraph

after years of trying to cover up Tito's half-arsed copying of Uncle Joe's vision of rule for the common good.

BTW, I know it's off thread but I started it so **** off moaning.
 
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Splendid instead of a working government infrastucture schools or hospitals we give them the western gift of practical jokes
Anyone fancy joining me in a verse of Rule Britannia
Not really, how about we get some Afghans together and we can punch out a verse of the Red Flag...

Then raise the scarlet standard high,
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

No doubt the Afghans will remember their socialist brethern of the Red Army and all the wonderful things they introduced to the country in the years that the red flag was indeed flying.
 
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I suspect if Ashie.. was a 'working man' living in a real socialist country, his enthusiasm for 'socialism' may be slightly less than it is currently.
 

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