I require a rat knacking air rifle

TheIronDuke

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#1
I would have posted this in 'Shooting Sports', but since Bad CO decided to marry the ex-wife of the Nigerian oil minister and move to Ingushetia to grow mushrooms, the whole job has got cattle trucked, you know?

Right. I need to shoot rats. The Vicar over the river is a dear chum but not worldly. Cant think why that might be, but there it is.

He has built a 'compostor'. Its a big green box that he throws kitchen waste into. He says it will save whales and penguins, and who am I to argue?

So we have rats. I wish to kill them with a gun and a .22 is out of the question on account of the road close by.

Anything that will do a rat from say, 50mtrs, is silent-ish and costs around 50 quid would be nice.

.22 or .177?

And before you start, no, I cant do the vicar. He is a chum.
 
#2
From personal experience id recommend a .22 Gamo Shadowmatic. Excellent break barrel air rifle, up to the legal limit which is 12ft/lbs i think and has an 8 shot tubular magazine on top so no need to reload if one tries to run wounded. No idea how much they are now though
 
#3
Anything that will do a rat from say, 50mtrs, is silent-ish and costs around 50 quid would be nice.

.22 or .177?

And before you start, no, I cant do the vicar. He is a chum.
At 50 Metres? Maybe if your "chum" prays for divine intervention on your behalf....otherwise no fuckin' chance...poison the feckers!
 
#4
yerp, your going to have to get a damm'd site closer than 50m. If the "area" is a problem vis neighbours then the crossman ratcatcher is the dogs danglies. However its low powered ie sub 6lb foot. Crossman make some lovely extra heavy rat killing pellets for it though. Or you can swap the .22 barrel out for the .177 which you can load with 8 steell BB's so you get a scatter effect.

Or you can get something better. Get a CO2 rifle with a decent sight and suppressor and hide and shoot.

Best bet though talk to Biped.
 

TheIronDuke

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At 50 Metres? Maybe if your "chum" prays for divine intervention on your behalf....otherwise no fuckin' chance...poison the feckers!
Yeah, fair one. I was hoping clever science people would have invented something since the last time I shot an air rifle.

Say 20mtrs? They're rats. Its not like they have peripheral vision or night sights.
 
#6
Don't let anyone know you're doing this or sooner or later word will reach the ears of the RSPCA. They live for cases like this and will go to great lengths to prosecute you for even the smallest clause. They have huge resources to take you to court and still collect donations to do it. Doesn't matter if you think it's a load of old cobblers, they WILL prosecute you. Vicar's permission or not.
 
#7
Don't let anyone know you're doing this or sooner or later word will reach the ears of the RSPCA. They live for cases like this and will go to great lengths to prosecute you for even the smallest clause. They have huge resources to take you to court and still collect donations to do it. Doesn't matter if you think it's a load of old cobblers, they WILL prosecute you. Vicar's permission or not.
And you visited planet Earth when?
 
#8
Trap 'em or poison 'em..trust me..I've been missing Rats for years..if they need to be dead..and I think they do...traps and poison...
 
#9
Don't let anyone know you're doing this or sooner or later word will reach the ears of the RSPCA. They live for cases like this and will go to great lengths to prosecute you for even the smallest clause. They have huge resources to take you to court and still collect donations to do it. Doesn't matter if you think it's a load of old cobblers, they WILL prosecute you. Vicar's permission or not.
Absolute Bollocks.
 
#10
Yeah, fair one. I was hoping clever science people would have invented something since the last time I shot an air rifle.

Say 20mtrs? They're rats. Its not like they have peripheral vision or night sights.
Wanna bet? They are canny wee sods, and very intelligent!

Aside from an air gat (which'll cost you a lot more than £50 to be fit for purpose - think £150+) have you considered the idea of a decent hunting Jack Russell? They are the absolute gonads for ratting, either that or getting a couple of outdoor living moggies would work.

Both of those will have a far higher kill rate than you and a rifle!
 

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#11
Both of those will have a far higher kill rate than you and a rifle!
Especially if he combines the rifle with his other passion; home-brewing his own version of Purple Tin from bleach and anti-freeze.
 
#12
And you visited planet Earth when?
I've walked this land for many a year, seen, heard and know of many a thing. It's called experience in some quarters. If you live in the UK and don't know about the RSPCA's love of taking people to court, the you should get someone to explain it to you.

It's even an offence to fire an air rifle within 50 feet of a public road, and the RSPCA have used that tiny clause before.

Their own report for 2009 shows 612 offenders cautioned, 1,153 offenders convicted, 1,174 other cases investigated and just 20 people got off.

96 people took their case to appeal and only 4 had their conviction squashed.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/ImageLocator/LocateAsset?asset=document&assetId=1232721535439&mode=prd

The RSPCA have a particular dislike of air rifles because, for example, of all the cats and birds that get shot by juveniles and chavs.


But it's up to you, ignore this warning if you want to, it's a free country and all that....
 
#13
Beginning of the year I was trying to kill rats attracted to the spill from a bird-feeder - using a Haenal .177 with iron sights over about 25m. I was definitely hitting the little (and sometimes big) buggers but they just squeeked, leapt in the air and disappeared. Not good and not very humane. Passing through Trago a couple of months later I saw an end of line item - SMK20 .22 Air Rifle at just over £100. I bought a cheapo telescopic sight (c.£25) to go with it, zeroed and engaged the next day. One shot, one kill. Managed to repeat the next day (different rat this time). Now that it is summer my neighbour no longer obliges by filling her bird feeder. Roll on autumn.
 
#14
I've walked this land for many a year, seen, heard and know of many a thing. It's called experience in some quarters. If you live in the UK and don't know about the RSPCA's love of taking people to court, the you should get someone to explain it to you.

It's even an offence to fire an air rifle within 50 feet of a public road, and the RSPCA have used that tiny clause before.

Their own report for 2009 shows 612 offenders cautioned, 1,153 offenders convicted, 1,174 other cases investigated and just 20 people got off.

96 people took their case to appeal and only 4 had their conviction squashed.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/ImageLocator/LocateAsset?asset=document&assetId=1232721535439&mode=prd

The RSPCA have a particular dislike of air rifles because, for example, of all the cats and birds that get shot by juveniles and chavs.


But it's up to you, ignore this warning if you want to, it's a free country and all that....

I agree with all of the above and would like to add that the RSPCA are the biggest bunch of left wing cunts I've met outside of the SWP. If ever someone rattles a charidy tin under my nose for them they get short shrift. And the one time I had a uniformed bod collecting at the door I was vile to them, I actually felt bad for about oh 1minute but then I remembered that they are basically a bunch of cunts.
 
#15
So we have rats. I wish to kill them with a gun and a .22 is out of the question on account of the road close by..
It is an offence under the Highways Act 1980 s 161(2) to light any fire on or over a carriageway, or discharge any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of a highway which is a carriageway, with the consequence that a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered.
The Police often 'forget,' or are completely ignorant of that last bit. If you have a sound moderated .22 and a safe backstop, and are shooting away from the road, you are not in violation of the law.
 
#16
Firstly; Troy - Fuck off you knob jockey.

Secondly -
So we have rats. I wish to kill them with a gun and a .22 is out of the question on account of the road close by.
Isn't the law something along the lines of not being allowed within 75ft of a road with a loaded air rifle?

Have you thought about using one of these:

?
 
#17
At 50 Metres? Maybe if your "chum" prays for divine intervention on your behalf....otherwise no fuckin' chance...poison the feckers!
I am the proud possessor of a Weirauch HW100 carbine. I have headshot rabbits at 50m, no problem.

edited to add; I always use Ely Wasp .22 pellets.
 
#18
Isn't the law something along the lines of not being allowed within 75ft of a road with a loaded air rifle?
Not in a public place or place to which the public have access, without reasonable excuse or lawful authority. Shooting over your own land (or that of an employer or person who has granted permission to bear a weapon on their land), even if it's crossed by a bridleway or 'green lane', means that you have such lawful authority.
 

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It is an offence under the Highways Act 1980 s 161(2) to light any fire on or over a carriageway, or discharge any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of a highway which is a carriageway, with the consequence that a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered.
The Police often 'forget,' or are completely ignorant of that last bit. If you have a sound moderated .22 and a safe backstop, and are shooting away from the road, you are not in violation of the law.
I have a similar problem thanks the garden two houses down resembling Borneo. My neighbour's got an Air Rifle and has claimed some solid kills so am tempted myself, as much for the sport as anything. Saw the 50 foot rule and doing some mental maths figure that to be 15 metres and change. I live in a small Victorian terraced house and figure that from the curb in front of my house to the garden is easily over 15m. Should think that most houses would adequately accommodate that distance, no?
 

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