I reckon we are due a population drop - only question is how

More likely there are, or will be, or have been, other sentient biological forms, but until we disprove E=mc2 we are very unlikely to ever get to hear from them let alone meet them. It seems very hubristic to image we are unique, there are a lot of other places out there. Current estimate is 2 trillion galaxies, with 7 trillion billion [or 7x10^22 for the mathematically minded] stars. Given that we've evolved in the 4.5 billion year life of the solar system but the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years, it's very possible aliens evolved, developed and died in other universes before our sun even formed our solar system.
 
"Some of these civilizations may have developed interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now"
That's the bit I think is pie in the sky, we aren't investigating interstellar travel, we're unsure we could get people to Mars and keep them there alive. It's taken us nearly 50 years to get two very very small radio transmitters to the edge of the solar system. We have no practical way to engage in space travel nor are we likely to find one unless someone can prove einstein wrong and remove the limitation of C.
 
"Some of these civilizations may have developed interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now"
That's the bit I think is pie in the sky, we aren't investigating interstellar travel, we're unsure we could get people to Mars and keep them there alive. It's taken us nearly 50 years to get two very very small radio transmitters to the edge of the solar system. We have no practical way to engage in space travel nor are we likely to find one unless someone can prove einstein wrong and remove the limitation of C.
Have you read The Three Body Problem?
 
Civilisation end when broadband speeds drop below 20Mbps. I'd class a struggle for survival as trying to stream Pornhub in a Travellodge.
Considering I live in the western suburbs of Sydney, I take offence at this.

Thank you Liberals for giving us the internet equivilant of a two horse cart carrying a ton of concrete and one of the horses is already dead.
 
If the west stopped vaccinating and feeding everyone in third word crap holes, that might go someway towards dropping the population.
Why should the west help those who won't help themselves?

Bleeding heart tossers.
But they do help themselves...........to all the money sent in by all the Guardian readership and spend it all on Kalashnakov ammunition.
Jim Davidson (love or hate) used to have a dit about Ethiopian famine which basically said " fcuk em, we have grannies that can't put two bars on their electric fire!"
It's true, charity should begin at home.
 
Have you read The Three Body Problem?
I've just read the first part of the synopsis on Google. It's fiction. Try doing the sustainable spaceship for 450 year flight scenario and it's either fatally broken down or radiation has mutated the crew to death long before they reach earth. As I said we aren't going to Mars in a hurry for the reasons listed above and it's 12.5 light minutes away.
 
More likely there are, or will be, or have been, other sentient biological forms, but until we disprove E=mc2 we are very unlikely to ever get to hear from them let alone meet them. It seems very hubristic to image we are unique, there are a lot of other places out there. Current estimate is 2 trillion galaxies, with 7 trillion billion [or 7x10^22 for the mathematically minded] stars. Given that we've evolved in the 4.5 billion year life of the solar system but the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years, it's very possible aliens evolved, developed and died in other universes before our sun even formed our solar system.
then again we could be the first to get this far, all the other inhabited alien worlds could be full of alien dinosaurs.
We could be the advanced race that others are waiting to get abducted and probed by.
Join the space probing corps now
 
then again we could be the first to get this far, all the other inhabited alien worlds could be full of alien dinosaurs.
We could be the advanced race that others are waiting to get abducted and probed by.
Join the space probing corps now
Or we could be the last life in the universe, a last gasp to find a habitable planet that could be used and was populated by the remnants of a race from another world.

Potentially even a bunch of accountants, hairdressers and telephone sanitisers.....
 
Or we could be the last life in the universe, a last gasp to find a habitable planet that could be used and was populated by the remnants of a race from another world.

Potentially even a bunch of accountants, hairdressers and telephone sanitisers.....
 

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Fermi paradox - Wikipedia

we just need to keep very very quiet.....
A lot of bright people have given this a lot of thought...

I quite liked this one:

It is dangerous to communicate[edit]
An alien civilization might feel it is too dangerous to communicate, either for us or for them. After all, when very different civilizations have met on Earth, the results have often been disastrous for one side or the other, and the same may well apply to interstellar contact. Even contact at a safe distance could lead to infection by computer code[118] or even ideas themselves.[119] Perhaps prudent civilizations actively hide not only from Earth but from everyone, out of fear of other civilizations.[120]

Perhaps the Fermi paradox itself—or the alien equivalent of it—is the reason for any civilization to avoid contact with other civilizations, even if no other obstacles existed. From any one civilization's point of view, it would be unlikely for them to be the first ones to make first contact. Therefore, according to this reasoning, it is likely that previous civilizations faced fatal problems with first contact and doing so should be avoided. So perhaps every civilization keeps quiet because of the possibility that there is a real reason for others to do so.[28]

Liu Cixin's novel The Dark Forest is based upon such a situation.
 
Reading this thread reminded me of a video on YT I watched several years ago, it was during the 2012 Mayan calendar conspiracy craze.

It was hilarious, it postulated that the Anunaki were an ancient race with space travel and were due to return in 2012. Apparently our nuclear weapons usage has been happening in certain locations on the globe so that the aliens monitoring us can see we are now ready to fight them. The locations themselves had some significance but I can't recall the wibble explaining it.
 

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