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"I know my place" - Marxism and reinforcing class boundaries

endure

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You do know in the past era's most are talking about that 'Student Grants' while 'free money for education' had to be means tested. This meant that in 1979 because of the aspirational actions and deeds of my parents I got no grant money to go to college. While the bussiness was resonably good they could barely afford and maintain the business and send me or my brother into further education. Thus part of the reason I enlisted.

I suppose I could have looked for some type of sponsership, being stuck in the heart of dartmoor made that difficult, but rather I understood that part of becoming adult is to strike out on ones own two feet.
From 1972 to 1975 I got a Local Education Authority grant of £10 a week to go to technical college. I don't recall the LEA enquiring about my Mum's financial circumstances at the time.
 

Auld-Yin

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They were known as the Tartan Tories not that long ago.
A fair time ago, at least two decades. They were but saw they were getting nowhere so moved over, very successfully, to take the Labour crown.
 
The irony of Labour 'promising' to abolish student debt when it was Labour that introduced it is lost on the party faithful.
Ah, but that was "the wrong sort of Labour".
 
You do know in the past era's most are talking about that 'Student Grants' while 'free money for education' had to be means tested. This meant that in 1979 because of the aspirational actions and deeds of my parents I got no grant money to go to college. While the bussiness was resonably good they could barely afford and maintain the business and send me or my brother into further education. Thus part of the reason I enlisted.

I suppose I could have looked for some type of sponsership, being stuck in the heart of dartmoor made that difficult, but rather I understood that part of becoming adult is to strike out on ones own two feet.

I had completely forgotten about that, thanks for reminding me. As you say, I had a "free" student grant but it was still means tested in 1987 (by that point my father had passed away and my mother was on a widow's pension whilst doing care home nursing on low wages) which was how I qualified for it.

IIRC 1988 was the last year that you could qualify for a full means tested grant for a three year degree, The 1989 intake had to apply for a student loan top up in their final year to make up the difference.
 
Socialism / Communism has always promoted social mobility.




Downwards.



Apart from the senior members of the Party.
Essentially the priestly caste who graciously hand down their received wisdom upon the masses.
 
I`m from farming stock ,left school with no qualifications but gained a degree later in life but my net worth is less than my fathers , all very confusing , who should I vote for ?
 

Fang_Farrier

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I`m from farming stock ,left school with no qualifications but gained a degree later in life but my net worth is less than my fathers , all very confusing , who should I vote for ?
Greens
 

Fang_Farrier

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Student grants had to go because university education was expanded massively to provide "accessible and inclusive equal opportunities" and to make it "less elitist".

The only way "university education" could be expanded to accomplish this at the level we see now was to add subjects, courses and pass-marks that could be attained by those who would/could never have gone to university before.

Thus education was finally "socialised". And as with politics, the lowest common denominator prevailed.

Grade inflation has progressed so far that basic innumerates and illiterates are going to "University" and earning a "Degree" and then finding out that they are unemployable.

But it doesn't matter as they are now the new "Working Class" and join/vote Labour.
 
I`m from farming stock ,left school with no qualifications but gained a degree later in life but my net worth is less than my fathers , all very confusing , who should I vote for ?

Something that in the year or two of politics that many who are conservative in nature and deeds across the societal class groups and economic class groups, are increasingly finding a similar issue.

As the centre of politics moved to the left over the last 30 years, it has made many more poorer either, financially or socially.
 

Daz

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In that case my dear, I need more coffee!!
Keeping in mind that some of your fellow countrymen would view the average tory voter as a pinko....get a whiff of a real socialist manifesto and the UK electorate look elsewhere and rightly so.
 

Daz

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Keeping in mind that some of your fellow countrymen would view the average tory voter as a pinko....get a whiff of a real socialist manifesto and the UK electorate look elsewhere and rightly so.
Hence the rejection of the Labour Party at the last election ........................................................................Not to mention the rejection of the EU at the referendum :)
 

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