I Honestly Feel Sorry For Him

#1
For those who accuse me of being heartless, disingenuous, hypocritical, racist (take a breath), "right wing" and more recently an outright criminal under our military code for my commentary on our political leaders, I offer this in a true spirit of heartfelt empathy for Him. I imagine someone in the White House Protocol Office has his or her resume out on monster.com tonight after this.

Also, for those who will say they "call me out" (ala Gary Cooper in "High Noon" for the particular post where the video appears, I have never before been on the site and do not vouch for or endorse the commentary as it was spotted by the LHCO who was so struck by it, she woke me from a sound sleep to see it. In a quick search to find the original ABC News clip, it seemed to have been strangely pulled from the ABC website.

Having been at various formal dinners and mess events involving both formal toasts and specific protocols where I have managed to make a total hash of it, I honestly feel sorry for Him in this instance and can only assume his staff let Him down horribly, although it is a bit odd that not another person (at least in view of the camera) raised his or her glass until the music ended.


http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/24/good-news-obama-botches-toast-to-the-queen/
 
#2
It's a very small matter. The press have commented on it in some places. In others it doesn't even get a mention. The BBC propaganda machine has this (amongst other things) to say: BBC News - A new bond between David Cameron and Barack Obama? and BBC News - President Obama hails 'special relationship' at banquet in which the only mention is: "To conclude, the president proposed a toast to the Queen, but there appeared to be a mistake as the band played the opening bars to God Save the Queen before he had finished."
 
#4
What do you expect, he's a Septic, Etiquette a word developed by the rich to confound the poor

Sorry JJ
 
#5
I had a similar, albeit less prestigious, experience in the Caucasus about a decade ago - I proposed a toast not realising that in that part of the world, when someone initially makes a toast - not just anyone can initiate a toast there, it has to be someone of the correct social standing - there are about 17 more toasts that the same person has to make, usually ending with a toast to the dead resulting in much maudlinness.. err... maudlinanity... err... depression. Interruption of the 18 round toast is something that can spark vendettas lasting decades.

On the assumption that Obama was considerably less drunk than I when he made his faux pas, I do have a slight glimmer of sympathy for him, but seeing as politicians work day and night to look their best in public, I can't help wondering if the embarrassment that us mortals feel after a faux-pas would have been redirected into finding blame in someone else ("Why the hell didn't McSchumckmeyer brief me on this? I want him/her sacked.").

I can recommend 'The Political Animal' by Jeremy Paxman as an interesting angle on the motivations and make-up of (British) politicians; living in France I can see that some of Paxman's ideas translate equally well to French politicians. I am sure they would to many US ones as well.
 
#6
Not only did he get the timing wrong, but after calling on the diners to drink a toast to the Queen, he was the one who didn't. Clearly, he was taking the lead from HMQ but forgot that she can't drink a toast to herself.

Perhaps he'll have learned that, in matters of protocol, it's better to emulate Philip. :)
 
#8
Not only did he get the timing wrong, but after calling on the diners to drink a toast to the Queen, he was the one who didn't. Clearly, he was taking the lead from HMQ but forgot that she can't drink a toast to herself.

Perhaps he'll have learned that, in matters of protocol, it's better to emulate Philip. :)
You can imagine him glaring at Obama and muttering, "I blame Lincoln for this...Great Emancipator my arse!" not quite under his breath...:applaud:
 
#9
He's only a young lad, he will learn.
 
#11
Hey don't bring President Lincoln into this! He had a nice little scheme thought up where he would offer boat fare back to Africa to the freed slaves after the end of the Civil War. "Sorry about the previous unpleasantness and all, but it was the evil Southern planters fault. Take this bit of land in West Fuckoff Africa with our apologies and be free." "Helloo? Any time now, y'all..."

Our current Chimp-in-charge couldn't even serve competently as a toastmaster for his local Chicago Optimists Club. I don't feel sorry for him. That's what you should expect to get through affirmative action. :roll:

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#12
Will i be right in saying that you did not vote for him. nice to see someone calling a chimp a chimp in this PC world that we live in

Hey don't bring President Lincoln into this! He had a nice little scheme thought up where he would offer boat fare back to Africa to the freed slaves after the end of the Civil War. "Sorry about the previous unpleasantness and all, but it was the evil Southern planters fault. Take this bit of land in West Fuckoff Africa with our apologies and be free." "Helloo? Any time now, y'all..."

Our current Chimp-in-charge couldn't even serve competently as a toastmaster for his local Chicago Optimists Club. I don't feel sorry for him. That's what you should expect to get through affirmative action. :roll:

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#17
What do you expect, he's a Septic, Etiquette a word developed by the rich to confound the poor

Sorry JJ
No, no. You are right, when it comes to royal etiquette, you Britons have it down pat. We made a slightly different decision some 250 years ago about the divine right of royal rule that makes such arcane matters, well, less relevant ;-)
 

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#20
Shamelessly borrowed from the DTel., Pres. Obama's Top 10 insults to the UK. Read these, and wonder why on earth we are bothering in Afghanistan, let alone inviting him to sit with the Queen. Some are understandable - I'd love the chance to insult Gordon Brown personally, but he was my PM, not his, and for a foreigner to do it is a bit naff. My favourite though is No2, declaring that France is America's strongest Ally. How could he say that?

He obviously really, really, hates the UK.




1. Siding with Argentina over the Falklands
For sheer offensiveness it’s hard to beat the Obama administration’s brazen support for Argentina’s call for UN-brokered negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands, despite the fact that 255 British servicemen laid down their lives to restore British rule over the Islands after they were brutally invaded in 1982. In a March 2010 press conference in Buenos Aires with President Cristina Kirchner, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave Argentina a huge propaganda coup by emphatically backing the position of the Péronist regime.
In June last year, Mrs. Clinton slapped Britain in face again by signing on to an Organisation of American States (OAS) resolution calling for negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, a position which is completely unacceptable to Great Britain. To add insult to injury, the Obama administration has insisted on using the Argentine term “Malvinas” to describe the Islands in yet another sop to Buenos Aires.
2. Calling France America’s strongest ally
In January this year, President Obama held a joint press conference at the White House with his French counterpart, literally gushing with praise for Washington’s new-found Gallic friends, declaring: “We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people.” As I noted at the time:
Quite what the French have done to merit this kind of high praise from the US president is difficult to fathom, and if the White House means what it says this represents an extraordinary sea change in US foreign policy. Nicolas Sarkozy is a distinctly more pro-American president than any of his predecessors, and has been an important ally over issues such as Iran and the War on Terror. But to suggest that Paris and not London is Washington’s strongest partner is simply ludicrous.
These kinds of presidential statements matter. No US president in modern times has described France as America’s closest ally, and such a remark is not only factually wrong but also insulting to Britain, not least coming just a few years after the French famously knifed Washington in the back over the war in Iraq.
3. Downgrading the Special Relationship
Barack Obama very rarely refers to the Special Relationship, and has hardly even mentioned Britain in a major policy speech, either before or since taking office. The Anglo-American alliance is barely a blip on Obama’s teleprompter screen, and he acts as though it simply does not exist. The Special Relationship has also been largely erased from the official lexicon of the State Department, and is barely used by US officials in London. Despite being America’s only major reliable ally when the chips are down, London is now treated in Washington as though it were the same as any other European power, albeit less charitably than either Paris or Berlin.
4. Supporting a federal Europe and undercutting British sovereignty
The Obama administration’s relentless and wrongheaded support for the creation of a federal Europe, from backing the Treaty of Lisbon to the European Security and Defence Policy, is a slap in the face for the principle of national sovereignty in Europe. British sovereignty is non-negotiable, and Obama’s willingness to undermine it is both insulting to Britain and self-defeating for the United States.
While the Bush Administration was divided over Europe, the Obama team is ardently euro-federalist. Hillary Clinton described the Lisbon Treaty as “a major milestone in our world’s history”, and in an interview with The Irish Times in 2009 stated: “I believe [political integration is] in Europe’s interest and I believe that is in the United States’ interest because we want a strong Europe.” And in May last year, Vice President Joe Biden described Brussels as the “capital of the free world.”
And the US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman, has warned Britain that “all key issues must run through Europe.” According to a report by The Parliament.com, in a private meeting with British MEPs at an event in the European Parliament in January, Susman called for a stronger British commitment to the EU, emphatically warning against British withdrawal:
I want to stress that the UK needs to remain in the EU. The US does not want to see Britain’s role in the EU diminished in any way. The message I want to convey today is that we want to see a stronger EU, but also a stronger British participation within the EU. This is crucial if, together, we are going to meet all the global challenges facing us, including climate change and security.
5. Betraying Britain to appease Moscow over the New START Treaty
In February, The Daily Telegraph broke a major story with damaging implications for the Special Relationship, revealing that Washington “secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty.” According to The Telegraph report:
Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week. Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.
A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal. Although the treaty was not supposed to have any impact on Britain, the leaked cables show that Russia used the talks to demand more information about the UK’s Trident missiles, which are manufactured and maintained in the US.
Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.
6. Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP
The Obama administration’s relentless campaign against Britain’s largest company in the wake of Gulf oil spill was one of the most damaging episodes in US-UK relations in recent years, with 64 percent of Britons agreeing that the president’s handling of the issue had harmed the partnership between the two countries according to a YouGov poll. The White House’s aggressive trashing of BP, including a threat to put a “boot on the throat” of the oil giant, helped wipe out about half its share value, directly impacting the pensions of 18 million Britons. This led to a furious backlash in the British press, with even London mayor and long-time Obama admirer Boris Johnson demanding an end to “anti-British rhetoric, buck-passing and name-calling”.
7. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
It is hard to think of a more derogatory message to send to the British people within days of taking office than to fling a bust of Winston Churchill out of the Oval Office and send it packing back to the British Embassy – not least as it was a loaned gift from Britain to the United States as a powerful display of solidarity in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Obviously, public diplomacy is not a concept that carries much weight in the current White House, and nor apparently is common sense.
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
Readers of this blog will know I’m no fan of Gordon Brown, but whatever one thinks of his third-rate premiership, Brown traveled abroad not as a private individual but as the leader of America’s closest ally. He represented 61 million Britons including the Armed Forces, as well as a huge amount of British trade and investment with the United States. He was however treated shabbily when he visited the White House in March 2009, and denied a Rose Garden press conference as well as a dinner. To cap it all, the decision to send him home with an assortment of 25 DVDs ranging from Toy Story to The Wizard of Oz – which couldn’t even be played in the UK – was a breathtaking display of diplomatic ineptitude that would have shamed the protocol office of an impoverished Third World country.
9. Insulting words from the State Department
The mocking views of a senior State Department official following Gordon Brown’s embarrassing reception at the White House in March last year says it all:
There’s nothing special about Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn’t expect special treatment.
One would have thought that this kind of monumentally shallow insult would have resulted in at least a formal apology and a reprimand for the official involved, but unfortunately Obama administration apologies are strictly reserved for the French and assorted enemies of the United States.
10. Undermining British influence in NATO
Despite Nicolas Sarkozy’s distinctly unflattering opinion of Barack Obama, the US president has gone to great lengths to appease French interests, even going as far as apologising to the French people in Strasbourg for hurting their feelings over the war in Iraq. The Obama administration has also done its best to give Paris a lead role in the NATO alliance at Britain’s expense, granting it one of two supreme NATO command positions – Allied Command Transformation (ACT). This, despite the fact that France has for decades been ambivalent and obstructionist over NATO, and is failing to carry its weight in Afghanistan.

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