HUNTING BAN PETITION TO NO 10

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#3
If you want to do something by all means sign up. But do you really think this bunch of self-centered, selfish, corrupt and uncaring wasters that form our government are actually going to take any notice of anything people from outside the city centers have to say...... well, pour yourself another drink.
 
#4
What's new, I've been up em for years! :roll: Now squeel like a piggy son! :twisted:
 
#6
I supose that luring fox hounds onto railways line is humane treatment to animals as well.
 
#7
G3Ops said:
plant_life said:
Don't hold back there G3
Apologies to all - but these people really do pi$$ me off.

The excuses that the pro-hunting lobby come out with are so bone as well - I really am amazed that they espouse this sh1t.

I'm sure we all know by now that it absolutely, 100% needs a pack of dogs to do the job because one rifle bullet would not do but for anyone who still needs convincing.

Check these out.

Rant over..........but happy to argue the toss as well :D
Fcuking city folk :roll:
 
#8
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
 
#9
Some people are pro and some are anti fox hunting, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

But the point is that the government used one of the many hundreds of new laws that they have implemented to prevent another country institution. How many foxes have they saved exactly. The choice is 20-40 people getting on horseback, having a bit of a get together and spending the whole day riding round the countryside following a pack of dogs and catching a single fox if they are lucky, 6 times a year...... or the alternative, 2-4 people going for a stroll in the countryside with shotguns for a couple of hours and killing half dozen foxes every weekend. Because like it or not, in the country foxes are seen as pests and are going to be hunted on farmland and it's only hunting with dogs that is against the law.

Also did you know that when the MoD banned fox hunting on its land, many owners of privately owned land surrounding MoD areas that had allowed their land to be accessed by forces for training, retracted that permission.
 
#10
plant_life said:
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
Dont give me that bollox reply, if a fox is proving a problem then you try and shoot it, you dont need a pack of hounds and some inbreads to 'hunt' in down. I live in the middle of the cotswolds, I dont have a city sliker life, so dont give me that 'its normal country life' crap. If you cant deal with a fox without a fox hunt, then you are not a very good farmer/gamekeeper are u?
 
#11
It was a slap in the face for the Conservatives from Labour after what Maggie Thatcher pushed through in the '80s.
 
#12
plant_life said:
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
The other thing they don't understand is how nature works. We have killed off the only natural predaters that foxes had in this country. There is no doubt that the fox population has to be controlled and the only way to control a fox population that is also good for the health of that population is to employ the survival of the fittest method. The only method that is as close to nature as possible is to hunt them with a pack of dogs. As foxes are now not being hunted with dogs their numbers are being controlled with indiscriminate methods, poisoning, shooting etc. This method means that instead of the weaker foxes being killed it can lead to the stronger foxes being killed, this in turn has a negative effect on the fox population. Unfortunately the bleading heart city set do not understand this and as a result are unwittingly destroying everything that makes our countryside such a beautiful and nature ritch environment to visit.

It truely saddens me to see that methods that have been used to nurturre our countryside for thousands of years are now being banned because these idiots find them unacceptable.
 
#13
Not all farmers can afford to have a full time game keeper or devote the time needed. Having some people pay you to deal with a pest problem on your land is quite a win win situation.
 
#14
leveller said:
plant_life said:
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
Dont give me that bollox reply, if a fox is proving a problem then you try and shoot it, you dont need a pack of hounds and some inbreads to 'hunt' in down. I live in the middle of the cotswolds, I dont have a city sliker life, so dont give me that 'its normal country life' crap. If you cant deal with a fox without a fox hunt, then you are not a very good farmer/gamekeeper are u?
Point proven! And if you were a good keeper you would know that hunting with dogs IS the best method, may I point you to my previous post on supporting a healthy fox population you twit!
 
#15
So what's more humane: slow death by poisonning or a quick death by a pack of dogs (which rarely happens. If possible the fox is shot before the pack reach it).
 
#16
leveller said:
plant_life said:
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
Dont give me that bollox reply, if a fox is proving a problem then you try and shoot it, you dont need a pack of hounds and some inbreads to 'hunt' in down. I live in the middle of the cotswolds, I dont have a city sliker life, so dont give me that 'its normal country life' crap. If you cant deal with a fox without a fox hunt, then you are not a very good farmer/gamekeeper are u?
So you try & shoot it, what if you don't quite shoot it? Chopper. Not a very good farmer.... how do you explain a farmer who hasn't lost a single lamb or sheep to disease in 4 years, finding one at 6am having been partially eaten alive by something because it was too heavily pregnant to get up from a shell scrape? What ate it? Rick Waller? I don't think so. So what if you don't think fox hunting is humane, do you think foxes are?
Have an opinion but for fcuks sake make it an informed one.
 
#17
If somebody came into your house and ruin thousands of pounds of your stuff you'd want to deal with that person anyway possible. What's wrong using a method that is hundreds of years old?
 
#19
To try and keep this thread on some kind of factual basis: Hunting is a hopelessly ineffective way of controlling the fox population. "Cubbing" and "Digging Out" is more effective by a factor of 8 - 10.

Incidently, the large rise of the "urban fox" is due to the countryside becoming too crowded (and therefore short of food) for the "rural fox".

As an aside: does anybody know how many Great Bustards are left on Salisbury Plain - or have our ginger friends got the lot?
 
#20
booboo said:
leveller said:
plant_life said:
I agree with you Bullet Sponge. Nothing like somebody with no knowledge of the countryside preaching about how inhumane fox hunting is. If G3 had even seen what a fox can do to hens/pheasants etc in a hutch they might change their mind. A fox will not just kill what it needs to eat, it will kill everything it can get to. A gamekeepers nightmare, one fox can kill stock worth thousands of pounds. But woe betide if a fox is killed by a pack of hounds. Dogs are naturaly pack animals and hunt as such. They are just doing what comes naturally.
Dont give me that bollox reply, if a fox is proving a problem then you try and shoot it, you dont need a pack of hounds and some inbreads to 'hunt' in down. I live in the middle of the cotswolds, I dont have a city sliker life, so dont give me that 'its normal country life' crap. If you cant deal with a fox without a fox hunt, then you are not a very good
farmer/gamekeeper are u?
So you try & shoot it, what if you don't quite shoot it? Chopper. Not a very good farmer.... how do you explain a farmer who hasn't lost a single lamb or sheep to disease in 4 years, finding one at 6am having been partially eaten alive by something because it was too heavily pregnant to get up from a shell scrape? What ate it? Rick Waller? I don't think so. So what if you don't think fox hunting is humane, do you think foxes are?
Have an opinion but for fcuks sake make it an informed one.
I spent a lot of my youth lambing, i.e. hours spent paid for (beer) by the local farmer to helping the ewes to give birth, (hand up the fanny to pull the difficult basterds out), so don’t talk to me about informed, I am still of the opinion that if you get the chance, shoot the fox, but I do not agree with the pointless spectacle of watching the imbreads hunt.
 

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