Hundreds of army reservists in Norfolk to train for UN peace keeping mission

ugly

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The monetary cost to the economy is huge but mobilization for reserves is for the essential task of defending the country, rather than providing forces to the UN in far flung parts.
One would hope that this and future deployments get the country used to the volunteer ethos!
 
Yeah including for the 99.9% of other Green Jackets who had eff all to do with it.
About 10 years ago I was a a mc rally.
Lad there was ex RGJ.
Good mob I said.
'They didn't do any good in Cyprus though' was his reply.
I said, 'a few blokes from a whole battalion don't ruin the battalion'.
His smile almost split hid face in two.
Bad blokes everywhere. But fortunately not in large numbers.
 
About 10 years ago I was a a mc rally.
Lad there was ex RGJ.
Good mob I said.
'They didn't do any good in Cyprus though' was his reply.
I said, 'a few blokes from a whole battalion don't ruin the battalion'.
His smile almost split hid face in two.
Bad blokes everywhere. But fortunately not in large numbers.
Good job he wasn't a PARA eh?
 

QRK2

LE
You're supposed to be paid the same rate as your day job but I believe it's now capped as you had bods from the HAC and others turning up on ops as ORs but being paid more than the CO.
Cough, more than the GOC old boy.

There was quite a low cap up to about 2006 that was also rank ranged (IIRC circa £22.k to LCpl, £37k to Capt etc) after then it went to a cap of about £200k for any rank or more for Doctors.
 
Spoke to a few ex 4 RGJ now with 7 at the last Remembrance Service.

Smiling like loons at the prospect of this tour.

Thoroughly deserved as it included a very good friend who has done several Herricks including OMLET where his skills (and memory) of using a Plotting board helped on the 82mm Mortars they were training the locals with - yep, the younger bods , both Reg and AR were baffled ,having only used MFDC
Kirk?
 

par avion

War Hero
Been capped for a good while now due mainly to the NHS Surgeons/Specialist Medics salaries, who were TA Bods
years
The HAC salaries were peanuts , whatever they like to say otherwise.
I would have thought the NHS Surgeons and specialist nurses would have more than earned every penny that the MOD paid them. Especially when they brought years of experience that couldn't be obtained in house at the specific times they were needed( On operations).

I am sure that most would be earning a lot more with private work in less stressfull conditions, but went anyway out of a sense of public duty.
 

The_Duke

LE
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I would have thought the NHS Surgeons and specialist nurses would have more than earned every penny that the MOD paid them. Especially when they brought years of experience that couldn't be obtained in house at the specific times they were needed( On operations).

I am sure that most would be earning a lot more with private work in less stressfull conditions, but went anyway out of a sense of public duty.
The experience was definitely a two way exchange. A trauma surgeon could gain years of NHS experience in a single tour (sadly).
 
I would have thought the NHS Surgeons and specialist nurses would have more than earned every penny that the MOD paid them. Especially when they brought years of experience that couldn't be obtained in house at the specific times they were needed( On operations).

I am sure that most would be earning a lot more with private work in less stressfull conditions, but went anyway out of a sense of public duty.
You can be as 'sure' as you like but the reality is that it's still only your opinion based on your own mindset and perceptions.

I think, just like others who volunteered or were mobilized, quiet a few went for a multitude of reasons with varying degrees of enthusiasm, and not purely for Public duty.

As ugly said they also gained from it while not losing out financially or having to endure the politics and relevant different types of stresses that their position attracts in civvy strasse.
 
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par avion

War Hero
You can be as 'sure' as you like but the reality is that it's still only your opinion based on your own mindset and perceptions.

I think, just like others who volunteered or were mobilized, quiet a few went for a multitude of reasons with varying degrees of enthusiasm, and not purely for Public duty.

As ugly said they also gained from it while not losing out financially or having to endure the politics and relevant different types of stresses that their position attracts in civvy strasse.
All fair enough, but if for what ever reason they decided not to join the reserves and mobilise (finnancial/family reasons) wouldn't the army have problems on operations in future. Where would they get the skilled doctors and medics from. It seems that from the last few decades the army is over reliant on the medical reserves.
 

chrisg46

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Book Reviewer
All fair enough, but if for what ever reason they decided not to join the reserves and mobilise (finnancial/family reasons) wouldn't the army have problems on operations in future. Where would they get the skilled doctors and medics from. It seems that from the last few decades the army is over reliant on the medical reserves.
Who would you rather have treating your catastrophic leg amputation, an MO who has spent most of their career treating STDs in an infantry battalion or a professor of emergency medicine at a teaching hospital?
the Med reserves will have far more experience of the actual job than regulars, a fairly unique circumstance in the military in general
 
All fair enough, but if for what ever reason they decided not to join the reserves and mobilise (finnancial/family reasons) wouldn't the army have problems on operations in future. Where would they get the skilled doctors and medics from. It seems that from the last few decades the army is over reliant on the medical reserves.

Yep, a well known fact among those that have actually served is that the then TA provided the mass of Army Medics.

As regular soldiers, we had one of the best 2 weeks ever when we had to be patients for a TA Field Hospital for their 2 week annual camp. Literally, stay in bed, etc for 2 weeks even better, this unit was from Armagh , where we had been a few months earlier so a few bedtime stories were told
 

par avion

War Hero
Who would you rather have treating your catastrophic leg amputation, an MO who has spent most of their career treating STDs in an infantry battalion or a professor of emergency medicine at a teaching hospital?
the Med reserves will have far more experience of the actual job than regulars, a fairly unique circumstance in the military in general
Yep, Not arguing about that. But if the MOD decided to reduce their pay to save money how many would volenteer. They mostly have familys and morgages which come first and are middle-aged.

Without them the army would have problems in a future operation where they rely on reserves.
 
Yep, Not arguing about that. But if the MOD decided to reduce their pay to save money how many would volenteer. They mostly have familys and morgages which come first and are middle-aged.

Without them the army would have problems in a future operation where they rely on reserves.
No shit Sherlock - Have you seen what the NHS Consultants can get paid PER DAY while on UK military service?
 

chrisg46

LE
Book Reviewer
I remember reading somewhere that NHS staff are automatically viable for military service, in times of war etc? Not seen it mentioned often though so an urban myth?
 

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