How would you redesign NATO - if at all?

Has NATO expanded too far?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 59.5%
  • No

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • Maybe, but it should stop where it is

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Total voters
    37
NATO can anticipate an enhancement of military and diplomatic capability at the end of this month.;)

'North Macedonia on Tuesday cleared the final hurdle to becoming the 30th member of the NATO military alliance after the Spanish Senate ratified its accession. Spain’s office at NATO said that 259 of the 264 senators endorsed the move. The bill was immediately signed by King Felipe and will be submitted to the U.S. State Department for official confirmation within the next 72 hours. Hailing the move, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg tweeted: “With that, all Allies have welcomed our soon-to-be 30th member. Congratulations, North Macedonia!”

 
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All go for the 30th flag in the car park, so another minnow, bringing issues but little capability, will have an equal seat at the table.

'President Stevo Pendarovski of North Macedonia has signed the final accession document for the small Balkan country's entry into NATO. Pendarovski signed the instrument of accession on March 20 that will shortly make the country the 30th member of the Western military alliance.

'The president was able to sign the document after Spain on March 17 became the last alliance member to ratify the membership of the former Yugoslav republic. The Spanish parliament was forced to vote remotely on the membership because of fears of holding a session amid the coronavirus crisis. Following the Spanish parliament's vote, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg wrote on Twitter that "with that, all allies have welcomed our soon-to-be 30th member. Congratulations, North Macedonia!"


 
Like much about our world. NATO is something from the past, that has tried to reinvent itself for political reasons and is one of many zombie like organisations, which exist now to faciliate globalisation and operates far beyond its original purpose of containing communism..

NATOs great enemy Russia, is a hollowed out kleptocracy. However as a large independent nation, which has refused to continue moving in the globalist channel, is deemed an enemy. I've noticed that many serving and recently served have not made the links to whom they're really serve. Anyone who has distance from the subject can quickly determine that nothing is done without politics and money considerations and ideology, even our tiresome democratic/human rights cry is shallow and simply a front.

What we need is to be rational and accept that globalisation is divided into two competing schools:-
1. A Grouping who still believe in nations and free trade. Call them Oceania.
2. A Grouping who are insular and only interested in protectionism for itself and free trade, where it benefits them. Call them the continentals (europe/china).

The very ugly truth, is we have more in common with moscow than brussels.
 
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Curiously, for an alliance named after the North Atlantic, the NATO Centres of Excellence do not include Anti Submarine Warfare.

NATO should form one - based in the UK and using the FOST organisation and facilities at Devonport, and Culdrose for ASW helicopter training. From there the European navies would not have to far to travel, the largest naval dockyard in Western Europe, and easy access to the Eastern Atlantic and South West Approaches.

We have afterall agreed to provide a carrier to NATO and the roles will include ASW. As such it is a good idea that ships and aircraft in a future NATO ASW task group train together.

Also should SACLANT be recreated as a separate command to SACEUR?
 
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Like much about our world. NATO is something from the past, that has tried to reinvent itself for political reasons and is one of many zombie like organisations, which exist now to faciliate globalisation and operates far beyond its original purpose of containing communism..

NATOs great enemy Russia, is a hollowed out kleptocracy. However as a large independent nation, which has refused to continue moving in the globalist channel, is deemed an enemy. I've noticed that many serving and recently served have not made the links to whom they're really serve. Anyone who has distance from the subject can quickly determine that nothing is done without politics and money considerations and ideology, even our tiresome democratic/human rights cry is shallow and simply a front.
Tremble in fear all who oppose our values! NATO is now 30 'strong'.

'North Macedonia on Friday officially became the 30th member of the NATO military alliance.

“North Macedonia is now part of the NATO family, a family of 30 nations and almost 1 billion people. A family based on the certainty that, no matter what challenges we face, we are all stronger and safer together,” NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said in a statement. North Macedonia’s flag will be raised alongside those of the other 29 member countries at NATO headquarters in Brussels and two other commands simultaneously on Monday.

'Given the impact of the coronavirus around the world, Macedonian President Stevo Pendarovski said “we cannot rejoice and mark the event as it should (be marked)… But, this is a historic success that after three decades of independence, finally confirms Macedonian security and guarantees our future. Congratulations to all of you! We deserve it!”

'U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the country’s membership “will support greater integration, democratic reform, trade, security, and stability across the region. North Macedonia’s accession also reaffirms to other aspirants that NATO’s door remains open to those countries willing and able to make the reforms necessary to meet NATO’s high standards, and to accept the responsibilities as well as benefits of membership.”


 
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Curiously, for an alliance named after the North Atlantic, the NATO Centres of Excellence do not include Anti Submarine Warfare.

NATO should form one - based in the UK and using the FOST organisation and facilities at Devonport, and Culdrose for ASW helicopter training. From there the European navies would not have to far to travel, the largest naval dockyard in Western Europe, and easy access to the Eastern Atlantic and South West Approaches.

We have after all agreed to provide a carrier to NATO and the roles will include ASW. As such it is a good idea that ships and aircraft in a future NATO ASW task group train together.
Centres of Excellence aren't 'formed by NATO', they are offered by nations, and NATO invariably accepts them. If the UK is so concerned about ASW, it's up to the UK (which currently hosts no NATO COEs) to offer it. Such an offer makes sense, given the UK's hosting of JOINT WARRIOR (ex-JMC), but the UK, and specifically the RN, needs to get off its spotty behind, put up the money and make it happen.
 

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