How will the Ukraine war end?

How will the Ukraine war end?

  • Rebels win,Eastern Ukraine goes independent

    Votes: 85 50.0%
  • Putin invades Kiev, NATO doesn't move

    Votes: 47 27.6%
  • Putin invades Kiev, NATO fights Russia

    Votes: 10 5.9%
  • Rebels lose, Ukraine stays united

    Votes: 28 16.5%

  • Total voters


You do know that a symptom of syphilis is thinking you are right all the time, an over whelming sense of moral superiority and being a tw@t.
1. You are absolutely ignorant about symptoms of infections.
2. I can recognise my mistakes.
3. I don't tell about my superiority, I tell about your inferiority.


Germans are clever guys, they don't want to be a NATO's cannon fodder and a first target for Russian tactical nukes.
Number of weapon systems ready for action:

  • Eurofighter jet airplanes: 39 of 128
  • Tornado jet airplanes: 26 of 93
  • CH-53 transport helicopters: 16 of 72
  • NH-90 transport helicopters: 13 of 58
  • Tiger helicopters: 12 of 62
  • A400M transport planes: 3 of 15
  • Leopard 2 tanks: 105 of 224
  • Navy frigates: 5 of 13

Limited number of weapons in German military ready for action: report | News | DW | 27.02.2018
Ex-Ukrainian president offers to mediate with pro-Russian rebels
Yanukovitch has raised his ugly head again. He wants to keep Ukraine united. Presumably under his or another puppets leadership. As he's currently on trial (in absentia) for treason I doubt his efforts will be warmly welcomed by the current Ukraine govt:
“I will do everything possible, everything that depends on me to stop the war ... to bring the two sides to the negotiating table,” Yanukovich told a news conference in Moscow.

He said he planned to offer his help to the European Union, the United States, Russia and the United Nations in the hope that he could facilitate direct talks.

“The main thing is ... to unite (the) Donbass (region) with Ukraine, to maintain the integrity of the Ukrainian state,” he said.
He also doesn't know anything about a plump breasted speckled pigeon:
Yanukovich also commented on his ties to Paul Manafort, U.S. President Donald Trump’s embattled former campaign manager.

Manafort has been charged in the United States with conspiring to launder money, lying on his tax returns and failing to register as a foreign agent for lobbying work for Yanukovich’s party, among other charges.

Yanukovich said he had never signed off on payments to Manafort for his work as an adviser to him and his party.

“I did not sign off on any payments for his work and never discussed the subject with him,” Yanukovich said.
Leopard not changing his spots. Gazprom (Russia) blocks gas to Ukraine whilst temperatures are still freezing:

Ukraine schools shut after Russia cuts gas
As noted in the news story the dispute is over money and the gas has been cut off three times before, starting in 2006. I suspect this one will go back into court but that Gazprom will not be able to get the contract cancelled. However, the contract expires next year anyway.

Ukraine has been taking advantage their position in the middle of the Soviet era pipeline network so that Gazprom has to deal with them. Gazprom's long term plan however is to build new pipelines which go direct to western Europe while bypassing Ukraine and Poland. That cuts those countries out of the loop in terms of being in control of the pipelines, as well as in terms of collecting transit fees. A significant chunk of Ukraine's foreign exchange earnings comes from the transit fees, so they are desperate to not lose that.

The latest dispute before a Swedish arbitration panel (not a court) had claims by Naftogaz (Ukraine) demanding $16 billion in transit fees, and claims by Gazprom for Naftogaz not buying gas they had contracted for. It sounds like they split the difference on the competing claims.

The Ukrainian pipeline company Naftogaz more than doubled the transit fees they charge Gazprom, and so Gazprom wants to terminate shipping gas via Ukraine by 2020, or at least drastically reduce the volumes in favour of other routes.

There's a very interesting (relatively speaking) study by Oxford University on the transit of Russian gas to Europe across Ukraine here:

A senior Gazprom executive said that under no circumstances would Gazprom renew the existing gas transit arrangements with Naftogaz across Ukraine.
This argument was expressed most colourfully by Gazprom deputy CEO, Alexander Medvedev, in June 2015: he said that “under no circumstances”, even “if the sun will replace the moon”, will Gazprom enter into a transit contract with Naftogaz after 2019.
The Russian government told Gazprom to back down from that position, so now Gazprom said they will transit some gas across Ukraine, but not under the current "unprofitable, unfair, unacceptable" terms and conditions. Gazprom doesn't want to deal with Naftogaz because of what they see as Naftogaz's price gouging, but the Russian government knows that bypassing Ukraine entirely isn't realistic given the time left under the current contract to find alternatives.
In the summer of 2015 the Russian leadership changed its view on post-2019 transit, apparently having recognised the seriousness of political, regulatory and contractual limitations on Gazprom’s ability to end transit via Ukraine by that date. President Putin ordered Gazprom to carry out negotiations on a possible new transit contract with Naftogaz which would replace the existing transit contract upon expiry.

Putin’s statement was significant as it suggested a direct political intervention aimed at improving the gas relationship with Ukraine. Putin’s position was soon echoed by Miller, who said that there could be a new transit contract, but not on “unprofitable, unfair, unacceptable”
The main future alternative to transit through Ukraine has been the Nord Stream 2 pipeline under the Baltic. This is backed by German interests who want to cut out the middlemen, but opposed by Ukraine, Poland, and some other eastern European countries who stand to lose billions in transit fees. The Nord Stream 1 pipeline is already running and taking gas direct from Russia to Germany.

What we're seeing here in this case though is simply business negotiations, ex-Soviet style.


Also, contract to transition of gas throw Ukraine will be finished too, looks like before the summer. So, Ukraine without gas transit became not interesting for EU, and Russia get it back almost peaceful way.

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