How will the Ukraine war end?

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  1. Rebels win,Eastern Ukraine goes independent

    83 vote(s)
  2. Putin invades Kiev, NATO doesn't move

    44 vote(s)
  3. Putin invades Kiev, NATO fights Russia

    9 vote(s)
  4. Rebels lose, Ukraine stays united

    26 vote(s)
  1. Yeah but there may be some left to deal with.
  2. Only 3 active members? Seem a bit more than that in this video.

  3. Diane Abbott school of maths.
  4. YarS

    YarS On ROPs

    It's another groups. In 2016 there vere near 400 stupids on the March in Lublino. We'll see how many of them will remain in this year.
  5. But but but you inferred that fascism is only in the west.

    You were obviously wrong.

    It looks like it's alive and kicking and very much happening in Russia.
  6. Your starter for 6...............10? wait a minute........4.
  7. YarS

    YarS On ROPs

    No. I told, that fascism is a menthal infection of West "syphilisation". There are some Russian West-lovers. Some of West-lovers are fascist. Some are faggots. Some are liberals. Some are Communists (but not all Communists are West-lovers).
    We are very open to the outer world. It's a positive thing, it's way of our survivance and our victories. But there are the side-effect - increased risk to be infected with an outhers (East, West or South) menthal infections.
    Now, with your agressive Russophobia we have a good antidot against all forms of the West ideology.
    In 2004 there were near 10000 of German-lovers in Moscow. In 2016 - less that 500. How many will be in this year - we'll see in November.
  8. YarS

    YarS On ROPs

    Taking Three as the subject to reason about—

    A convenient number to state—

    We add Seven, and Ten, and then multiply out

    By One Thousand diminished by Eight.

    "The result we proceed to divide, as you see,

    By Nine Hundred and Ninety and Two:

    Then subtract Seventeen, and the answer must be

    Exactly and perfectly true.
  9. But but but you said that only in the west would fascism be accepted. It seems you have in Russia willing adherents who just love to be fascist. Whilst fascism may have been 'invented' in Italy and so for you western, it's only another form of authoritarianism with nationalist streak. And you Russians just love authoritarianism. You can't live without it since you have such a crap sense of strong institutions, therefore you need dictators. "Oh come and rule us oh mighty Putin, for we have such sh@t sense of good government and haven't got a frikking clue how to run a country without a strong leader"

    The idea of fascism fell on fertile soil in Russia.

    And by the way, you need to learn about genetics and inherited traits as well as environmental influences. You can't catch homosexuality like a disease and it wasn't invented in the west, it existed in Russia long before the muscovites were ordered to shave their beards off.

    As for communism, you Russians made complete mess of that too. Can't you do anything right?

    Any other yollop thoughts? Your kapusta brain must be steaming now it's working so hard to think of excuses.
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  10. Don't you know anything?

    The number is 42.
  11. YarS

    YarS On ROPs

    Fascism is the West ideology. Difference between German fascism and English liberalism is a difference between Pepsi-Cola and Coca-Cola. Russian Autoritarism is a Kvas.

    Russian (and Ukrainian) "fascists" first of all like German style and European culture. They just say - we are also Europeans, we are also "white people", it's their identity.

    Sure. Strong and clever leader is necessary condition for our independence and survive. We are great continental state, we have many strong enemies, so conception of State-as-Army we had accepted from the times of Horde, if not earlier.

    Ha! Can you say that Louis XIV Le Roi Soleil, or Temüjin, son of Esugey, AKA Genghis Khan were a fascists? No.

    Ha! Alopecia also was in Russia since prehistoric times, and what? Is it not a disease? And don't mix hosexuality as symptom of disease and ideology of faggoty (kind of liberalism).
  12. Lyublino is a traditional place for so called 'Russian marches'. Their organiser, the leader of Russian nationalists, mr.Dyomushkin was jailed (for 2.5 years) recently for incredible, Orwellian style absurd reason. He was accused in placement in social networks of some photos taken during previous Russian marches. There was a banner with slogan on the photos - 'Russian power to Russia'. This slogan was recognised by Putin's 'court' as 'extremist' one.
    With such actions of 'law-enforcement' structures (more right law violating structures) indeed number of Russian march participants will be lower.
  13. YarS

    YarS On ROPs

    Do you thing, it was wrong decision, looking on situation in Ukraine, with Nazies in power?
    No, he can use his "Russian power" for Russian profit by mining gold at Colima river.
  14. You obviously don't know anything.

    Which is a slightly milder form of fascism

    Are you not European then?

    Sure, be strong. You don't have to be authoritarian with crap gov't and corrupt politicians though to be strong.
    True. Your point is what? That in the land of Russia, authoritarianism is alive and well.

    As I said, you need to learn about genetics and pre-disposition, rather than repeating the bigot propaganda you've learnt in kapusta school for kapusta brained yollops.

    Here's something for you to chew on, so to speak:


    Some famous people in there.
  15. Yes, I think that it is not only absolutely wrong decision but stupid, lawless and self contradictory.
    2-3 years ago police allowed to carry big banner with slogan 'Russian Power to Russia' (России Русскую Власть) openly and there was no any questions about the slogan, the banner, its usage during the Russian March. I mean that police, prosecutors, FSB at time hadn't any questions. But now ... now crooks that surround the head of corrupted regime - mr.Putin wish to 're-elect' him in 2018 for 6 years and any political opponent who could pose even theoretical threat to corrupted Putin's regime is to be jailed, forced to emigrate, silenced and so on. Recently journalist Alexander Sokolov was jailed for 3.5 years just for campaigning for a referendum after the end of the tern of the president or the Parliament with possible punishment of statemen if the result would be negative.

    1) Btw, are you aware about the size of salaries and pensions of Russian legislators?
    2) Do you think that that they are fair ones?
    3) Do you like any (civil) minister in Putin's goverment? Whom exactly?

    Personally I hold in high esteem mssrs. Lavrov (FM) and Shoigu (MoD). Others are just crooks.
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