How will the Ukraine war end?

How will the Ukraine war end?

  • Rebels win,Eastern Ukraine goes independent

    Votes: 102 47.9%
  • Putin invades Kiev, NATO doesn't move

    Votes: 63 29.6%
  • Putin invades Kiev, NATO fights Russia

    Votes: 13 6.1%
  • Rebels lose, Ukraine stays united

    Votes: 35 16.4%

  • Total voters
    213

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
This time Germany is in NATO which has nukes.
I'm sure, Septics are not eager to die for German ambitions. And anyway, Russia have more nukes than the whole NATO. What is more important - Russua is much more close to Germany than USA.

And in any case, according to your quote, they're only suggesting a UN mission on the border.
They suggested to "dismiss" DPR and LPR by German forces. Thats more than enough to "dismiss" Germany, or, to make there lunar landscape.

By the way, you have no navy, and China has. Woohoo.
Thats good. They can distract USA from Europe and Atlantic theatre.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Could be bad, used to help in taking over Siberia.
Oh, Lord. Do you have any understanding of European military history? Do you rember problems of Germans and Frenches in rather warm and civilisated European part of Russia? Now try to imagine China's soldiers from tropical and subtropical part of the state, surviving in the winter taiga, fighting against 'furry beasts' and building transport infrastructure simultaneously. Another moment - big part of China's population is concentrated in two rivers valley, with high difference of levels and big amount of dams. Few hundreds of nukes, and all life-support infrastructure will be collapsed, and hundreds millions will be literally washed out. Add tsunamy in coastal regions - and China will lost 95% of population at the first year of war.
Geography is a fate, and China always was conquered by 'northen barbarians', not vice versa.
 
Oh, Lord. Do you have any understanding of European military history? Do you rember problems of Germans and Frenches in rather warm and civilisated European part of Russia? Now try to imagine China's soldiers from tropical and subtropical part of the state, surviving in the winter taiga, fighting against 'furry beasts' and building transport infrastructure simultaneously. Another moment - big part of China's population is concentrated in two rivers valley, with high difference of levels and big amount of dams. Few hundreds of nukes, and all life-support infrastructure will be collapsed, and hundreds millions will be literally washed out. Add tsunamy in coastal regions - and China will lost 95% of population at the first year of war.
Geography is a fate, and China always was conquered by 'northen barbarians', not vice versa.
You couldn’t afford to go to war with China.
 
It is not just a 'technicality'. Poroshenko is still in control of SBU, and there are enough of illegal bandgroups, nationalistic battalions and so on... Zelenskiy's chances to survive until inaguration are not 100%.
Oo, you're so perceptive aren't you?

Shall we log this comment to check later.
So, @Grey Fox, I see you got it wrong again.

Zelensky survived and has been inaugurated and all seemed to have gone well with the handover of office.

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New Ukraine President Zelensky calls snap election
 
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Zelenskiy was sworn in as president of Ukraine on Monday. He promised to stop the war in the east. More significantly at this time, he immediately dissolved the parliament.
www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-president-sworn-in-dissolves-parliament-1.5142447?cmp=rss
Ukrainian TV star Volodymyr Zelenskiy was sworn in Monday as the new president, promised to stop the war in the East against Russian-backed separatists and immediately dissolved parliament, which he has branded as a group only interested in self-enrichment.
Just prior to dissolving parliament, he called for the firing of the defence minister, the head of the security service, and the prosecutor general. All were seen as being Poroshenko supporters.
After he was sworn in but before he moved to dissolve parliament, Zelenskiy asked the Supreme Rada to adopt a bill against illegal enrichment and support his motions to fire the defence minister, head of the Ukrainian Security Service and the prosecutor general. All of them are allies of former president Petro Poroshenko, who lost the election to the comedian with no previous political experience but who had played the Ukrainian president on a popular TV show for years.
The prime minister has resigned.
In response to Zelenskiy's announcement, Ukraine's Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman said he would step down after the next government meeting on Wednesday and would take part in the upcoming parliamentary election.
Zelenskiy told parliament that his main goal will be to end the war in eastern Ukraine. There were no details on how he intends to do this.
In a feisty speech after his inauguration, Zelenskiy told the Rada his main goal for the presidency is to bring peace to Eastern Ukraine, where government troops have been fighting Russia-backed separatists for five years in a conflict that has left at least 13,000 dead.

"I'm ready to do everything so that our heroes don't die there," he said. "It wasn't us who started that war. But we need to be the one to finish it."
Although Zelenskiy has announced that he has dissolved parliament, there is some dispute over whether he has legal authority to do so. It all comes down to legal limitations involving the timing between the end of the existing parliamentary coalition and the time before the next election is normally scheduled. Zelenskiy's opponents say that what he has done is illegal, while his supporters say it is justified.
Many lawmakers had already viewed Zelenskiy's inauguration with apprehension, and it was not clear if the new president could legally dissolve the sitting parliament. Political factions have been manoeuvring for weeks trying to avoid such a situation.

Zelenskiy hopes to ride the wave of his electoral success to get his supporters into parliament. Ukraine's parliamentary election was scheduled for Oct. 27, and the current legislature's authority expires in late November. The Ukrainian law allows the president to disband the parliament no later than six months before its power expires.

In a bid to deprive Zelenskiy of the opportunity to call an early election, a faction in the Rada had announced its departure from the ruling coalition, technically collapsing Poroshenko's government. The parliament's rules envisage that it cannot be disbanded within 30 days following the announcement of a collapse of the ruling coalition.

Zelenskiy's supporters argued, however, that the motion was legally void because the coalition had long ceased to exist.
Elections were already scheduled for the autumn. Zelenskiy's intention in dissolving parliament now is to take advantage of his initial popularity to try to get more of his supporters elected to parliament.
 
Chief of the Ukrainian State Investigative Bureau Olga Varchnko, wrote on her Facebook page, that they started investigation against former president Poroshenko in accusation for treason, as he sended Ukrainian boats in Kerch strait.
 
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Ukraine president decrees snap parliamentary election for July 21 - Reuters
Snap elections being held on 21st July after Zelenisky has dissolved Parliament:
Ukraine’s new President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Tuesday issued a decree setting for July 21 as the date for a snap parliamentary election, according to a statement on his website.

Zelenskiy, a political novice before running for the presidency, said on Monday he was dissolving parliament to prepare for an election. The vote would give his new party the opportunity to win seats for the first time.
 
Chief of the Ukrainian State Investigative Bureau Olga Varchnko, wrote on her Facebook page, that they started investigation against former president Poroshenko in accusation for treason, as he sended Ukrainian boats in Kerch strait.
In case anyone else is wondering what our resident loon was wibbling about, it's a spurious allegation by a pro-Russian traitor.

Yanukovych ally suspected of helping Russia annex Crimea seeks ‘treason’ charges against Poroshenko - Human Rights in Ukraine
 

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