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How will the Ukraine war end?

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Skylog, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. Rebels win,Eastern Ukraine goes independent

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  2. Putin invades Kiev, NATO doesn't move

    40 vote(s)
    27.4%
  3. Putin invades Kiev, NATO fights Russia

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  4. Rebels lose, Ukraine stays united

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  1. How will the Ukraine war end?
     
  2. I'm unsure.
     
  3. Surely.
     
  4. Bright flash, primary wave, secondary wave. Repeat to endex.
     
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  5. NSP

    NSP LE

    One side will win, one side will lose.
     
  6. With the warring parties, their so-far repressed feelings of love and fraternity for one another being liberated by excessive libation, resulting in them throwing their weapons to the ground and establishing a mutually-supportive, orthodox-based neo-falangist model community, with the contested ground becoming a bastion for a hutterite-style community of pacificism and a faith-based pursuit of utopianism seeing a rejection of the oppressive nationalist, proto-imperalist hinterland of the participants which drove them into conflict in the first place.

    Alternatively, they'll eventually get tired of blowing the crap out of each other (and passing airliners) and cobble together some peace settlement which will leave no-one entirely satisfied (least of all Mr Putin as he wonders why the ungrateful oligarchs he'd done so much for chose to overthrow him as sanctions worked for a change) and which'll lead to another war in a few generations' time.
     
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  7. East Ukraine separates, Putin has his small victory and that is that. Its what happens next is more interesting.
     
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  8. Like the endless succession of threads on the subject, I suspect it will never end.
     
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  9. Schaden

    Schaden LE Book Reviewer

    I think after a lot of russians get killed putin will get ousted and the new lot of mafia hoods will get things back to the way they were so everyone can enjoy those $$ they stole.
     
  10. Seeing that both sides have been weakened by a protracted and bloody war Guinea swiftly occupies the country, defeats both sides and rules the country as a colonial possession with an iron fist from Conakry.


    No one sees it coming.


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  11. Many a truth told in jest.

    It may in Putin's calculations to never let it end and leave it as a "frozen conflict" which he can hear up or cool down at his whim. It would certainly keep the focus of his theft of Crimea.
     
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  12. As this is CA... The Former Ukraine (FU for short) was socially, educationally, industrially and financially at a low level prior to the maidan protests and the ensuing mess. It is now lower in all those areas than it was before, and there it will remain for the foreseeable future. The least-bad that can happen is that it doesn't cost us too much in aid, and that we are able effectively to use the 'warning' effect of the FU situation to stave off the looming crises elsewhere which are closer to home.

    In any case, the people resident in the territory of FU are pretty much stuffed. No one wins.
     
  13. Nobody wins - it becomes a frozen conflict. Think Republic of South Ossetia, Republic of Abkhazia, Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR), commonly known as Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. None of which have garnered any recognition as independent states, all four remain de facto states wholly dependent on handouts from Moscow. What they have achieved? ‘Internal sovereignty’ on a portion of the territory of a recognized post-Soviet state – in this case the Republics of Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Moldova.Then there is the poverty, something that has increased in all of these "regions" since their supposed independence, an increase of around 300% in all these "Russian" supported areas. The Republic of Abkhazia is the worst, the ruling elite live a life of luxury whilst 82% of the population are living in poverty of which 59% are living below subsistence level (Source UNICEF).

    What we are seeing is a regional power creating wholly dependent, repressive third-world enclaves around itself so as to protect itself from the paranoia of a non-existent threat.
     
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  15. Given Russian history you can't blame them for paranoia can you. Particularly since many of their previous buffer states joined NATO when Communism went belly up.
     
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