How to "save" the NHS

Gout Man

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You're Scottish - stick it in your bank account then don't use it for whatever it was designed for.
He could do a Father Ted if the auditor gets called in.

”It’s just resting in my account”.
 

sirbhp

LE
Book Reviewer
The NHS has been "failing" every year since the first Tory government after its formation but its still here. Bloke on private eye said that .
 

ancienturion

LE
Book Reviewer
The NHS has been "failing" every year since the first Tory government after its formation but its still here. Bloke on private eye said that .

It's a real shame he isn't aware that the NHS was first set up long after the Tory Party.
 

Yokel

LE
How much illness (and expenditure) could be prevented by preventive interventions and policies? I am sure that I have mentioned this before but consider the example of the obese person who develops Diabetes and subsequent complications. They did not go to bed thin one night and wake up obese, so surely they can be helped at an early stage?
 

Ayatollah

Old-Salt
Now is a good time to start publicising other ways to save the NHS. Like taking personal responsibility for our health, using pharmacies for minor ailments, turning up for booked appointments, learning that sunburn is neither an accident nor an emergency.

I could go on, but you get the point.
The NHS is top-heavy in administration, reduce the number of hangers-on and employ more doctors and nurses.
 
How much illness (and expenditure) could be prevented by preventive interventions and policies? I am sure that I have mentioned this before but consider the example of the obese person who develops Diabetes and subsequent complications. They did not go to bed thin one night and wake up obese, so surely they can be helped at an early stage?

No

That would lead to howls of State intervention - God forbid that anyone should have to be responsible for their own health.
 
How much illness (and expenditure) could be prevented by preventive interventions and policies? I am sure that I have mentioned this before but consider the example of the obese person who develops Diabetes and subsequent complications. They did not go to bed thin one night and wake up obese, so surely they can be helped at an early stage?
They have to want to be helped.
 

HE117

LE
There is no "solution" to public health spending until someone creates an immortality treatment. Whatever you do, you will never satisfy everyone. It is the ultimate economic black hole!

The best you can do is to create some sort of balancing mechanism that draws a line between the aspirations of the political and medical communities and the ability of the economy to fund it. The formation of the NHS, although apparently altruistic, never was.. it was and remains the largest Ponzi scheme ever created!

Never lose sight of the fact that life is a sexually transmitted fatal disease!
 
The NHS is top-heavy in administration, reduce the number of hangers-on and employ more doctors and nurses.
Administrators or managers? I don't see the point in getting Drs, Nurses etc doing admin work when a cheaper admin assistant can do it for them freeing them up to spend their time doing medical/clinical stuff
 

Tool

LE
How much illness (and expenditure) could be prevented by preventive interventions and policies? I am sure that I have mentioned this before but consider the example of the obese person who develops Diabetes and subsequent complications. They did not go to bed thin one night and wake up obese, so surely they can be helped at an early stage?
Not necessarily obestiy, but I went to my docs with a hernia on the LHS. Sent to the specialist, who insisted the hernia was on the RHS. After the op (on the LHS), was advised that would be a need for another op on the RHS in the future, as there was a weakness in the muscle wall. Logically, repairing BOTH sides at the same time would prevent two operations with overlapping scarring, two sets of time off (6 weeks to 2 months), two hospital operating theatres, two hospital stays blah blah blah?
 

enpointe

Clanker
Administrators or managers? I don't see the point in getting Drs, Nurses etc doing admin work when a cheaper admin assistant can do it for them freeing them up to spend their time doing medical/clinical stuff
administrators who like to think they are managers ( and are paid as such )

Managers who do not have the skills, knowledge or experience to manage what they are asked to manage and also lack the humility and respect for professionals to know when to ask for and listen to the professionals inout
 

Fang_Farrier

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Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
administrators who like to think they are managers ( and are paid as such )

Managers who do not have the skills, knowledge or experience to manage what they are asked to manage and also lack the humility and respect for professionals to know when to ask for and listen to the professionals inout

I raised a query today with my clinical director who passed it to the relevant manager.
Who kindly cut and paste the top link when you popped my question in Google.

I know that because my I had already googled my query, seen that link and read the page but knew that it did not answer my query!
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
The NHS is top-heavy in administration, reduce the number of hangers-on and employ more doctors and nurses.
Then what would the diversity co-ordinators, translators of information and applications, form designers and HR managers do?

Friend of mine at Middle Wallop mentioned that his wife had applied for but failed to get, a job in the local Hospital Trust.

She was offered Counselling, paid for by the Trust, to help her deal with this.

What a way to waste money!
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Then what would the diversity co-ordinators, translators of information and applications, form designers and HR managers do?

Friend of mine at Middle Wallop mentioned that his wife had applied for but failed to get, a job in the local Hospital Trust.

She was offered Counselling, paid for by the Trust, to help her deal with this.

What a way to waste money!
Just to point out that that wouldn't happen in the private sector.

It's the sort of thing that needs to be brought up when people are whining about cuts to front-line services. There's plenty of slack in the system while shít like this still goes on.



Angels... every one of 'em.
 

anglo

LE
Only one thing wrong with the NHS, it's being run by idiots who profess to be managers
IE, the small local hospital in Liskeard had a light injuries unit LIU, open 24 hours,
they had two nurses running it, then the powers that be said, shut it at 20 00hrs,
save some dosh, they also shut down all the LIU in the area.
Which means all the people in Plymouth and a large chunk of the surrounding area
use the AE unit at Derriford Hospital, and they wonder why the staff are overworked.
They can't even work the simple things out, worse than that if they proved wrong
they haven't got the courage to admit and correct their mistakes.
 

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