How to make friends and influence - Guantanamo Bay style

kes1

LE
A UK resident freed from Guantanamo Bay has said he would not have faced torture or extraordinary rendition but for British involvement in his case.

Full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7940958.stm

US dropped all charges, there was no evidence he was involved with al-Queda...after 7 years locked away and (alledgedly) tortured I doubt he's feeling to kindly towards Britain anymore.




Apologies if this has been covered already Mods - did a search (albeit quick one) and couldn't find anything about it.
 
kes1 said:
A UK resident freed from Guantanamo Bay has said he would not have faced torture or extraordinary rendition but for British involvement in his case.

Full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7940958.stm

US dropped all charges, there was no evidence he was involved with al-Queda...after 7 years locked away and (alledgedly) tortured I doubt he's feeling to kindly towards Britain anymore.




Apologies if this has been covered already Mods - did a search (albeit quick one) and couldn't find anything about it.

Then he can go back home......... He is not British FFS :x
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
Anyone else thinking ' if that were me I'd just go back to the coutnry that gave me asylum and be quiet' or 'methinks he doth protest too much' or ' who is paying the lawyers to make the bullets for him to fire?'


Oh, that'll just be cynical old me, then.
 
Heard his interview on Radio 5 this morning. When asked why he was in Afghanistan in 2003, he said it was a trip of adventure to see what real Islam is like (of course, why bother with Mecca and Saudi).

He was asked about his involvement in the Taleban and why he admited attending training camps in Afghanistan. His lawer advised him not to answer.

But its all our fault, and his immigration review board is sitting very soon. Will the Gov have the balls to deport him as he was an illegal immegrant? I think we all know the answer to that one.
 

kes1

LE
Little harsh considering there is no evidence of any anti-British feeling from him prior to his arrest.

Mr Mohamed had lived in the UK from the age of 15, before being arrested in Pakistan in 2002.

In 1994 he arrived in the UK and sought asylum on the basis of his family's opposition to the Ethiopian government.

His application was rejected, but in 2000 he was given exceptional leave to remain in the UK for four years.

And I'd like to point out that any ill feeling he may have towards the UK now is merely my own supposition...
 

ericthellama

War Hero
He may not be British but he's in the best possible place . . . for achieving celebrity status, suing for damages, getting accommodation, benefits, tea, sympathy etc. I have no doubt that he will become a celebrity in the British Muslim community and that we will hear a lot more of him in the future. He will be a living accusation that we condone torture, imprisonment without trial etc. and I also have no doubt that his case will be linked with those Muslims currently held in British prisons on terrorism related charges.

Yawn . . . . where's Shami Chacrabati? Oh well, perhaps she'll be on the next outrage bus.
 

kes1

LE
This story - whether he was or wasn't innocent - did make me wonder how many true guilt free inmates of Guatanamo may, on release, feel so bitter towards the US that they will go over to al-Queda.
 

kes1

LE
ericthellama said:
He may not be British but he's in the best possible place . . . for achieving celebrity status, suing for damages, getting accommodation, benefits, tea, sympathy etc. I have no doubt that he will become a celebrity in the British Muslim community and that we will hear a lot more of him in the future. He will be a living accusation that we condone torture, imprisonment without trial etc. and I also have no doubt that his case will be linked with those Muslims currently held in British prisons on terrorism related charges.

Yawn . . . . where's Shami Chacrabati? Oh well, perhaps she'll be on the next outrage bus.

Possibly a ruse to force the UK's into giving him citizenship maybe?
 

RABC

LE
His story is that he went to Afghanistan to get away from the London drugs culture. Yeh right !!
 

BigT

LE
RABC said:
His story is that he went to Afghanistan to get away from the London drugs culture. Yeh right !!

That going to fly isn't it no drugs and no guns either then, did not mention the fale passport he was alegedly using when arrested.
 

bubsnicket

Old-Salt
kes1 said:
....did make me wonder how many true guilt free inmates of Guatanamo may, on release, feel so bitter towards the US that they will go over to al-Queda.

I would imagine that even after his release the intelligence services will be keeping a fairly close eye on his actions for a few years to come.. just in case he decided to 'get away' again and discover his 'muslim roots' in afghanistan and pakistan 'holiday camps'... Any dissident groups with real terror aspirations would probably do well to keep away from him!
 
drain_sniffer said:
Heard his interview on Radio 5 this morning. When asked why he was in Afghanistan in 2003, he said it was a trip of adventure to see what real Islam is like (of course, why bother with Mecca and Saudi).

He was asked about his involvement in the Taleban and why he admited attending training camps in Afghanistan. His lawer advised him not to answer.

But its all our fault, and his immigration review board is sitting very soon. Will the Gov have the balls to deport him as he was an illegal immegrant? I think we all know the answer to that one.

Just an unfortunate sequence of events really.

Oh look - Flying Saucers and Winged Pigs flying in formation :roll:
 
There was reference on Radio 4 to certain "Passport irregularities", ie. it was forged.

Adventuring to a war ravaged country like the 'stan allegedly to learn more about Islam, on forged documents?! Sounds like the product of Finsbury Mosque to me!
 
BBC today reports that an individual freed from Gitmo is now a senior Taleban commander.

BBC Linky
 
Would love to see the system grow a set and deport him before EU law makes us pay him a fortune......
on top of NHS, welfare, housing, .....................................................
 

itchyscott

Clanker
RABC said:
His story is that he went to Afghanistan to get away from the London drugs culture. Yeh right !!

haha what a shocker! Think we have all learned an important lesson today if you dont fancy spending several years in guantanamo bay then don't attend a terriost training camp, simple
 
DavidBOC said:
BBC today reports that an individual freed from Gitmo is now a senior Taleban commander.

BBC Linky

Shocking, Taleban Commander gets released from jail in Afghanistan.

I'm sure the Afghan Prison Authorities have never done that before :roll:
 
One mahoosive compensation payment winging its way towards him for his incarceration. An even bigger one for his lawyer. Nice business this false imprisonment racquet if you can get in the act. I reckon thats what Mohamed was doing in Afganistan. He was skint and thought I know I'll pretend to convert and become a terrorist and get myself arrested, asked some questions (torture being a dirty word Darling), and then get freed (albeit indirectly)by a President who harbours a grudge against the Brits as his granddaddy was asked some questions in Kenya. Cynicism doesn't even enter into the equation.
 
Being of a somewhat cynical nature I suspect that he claims MI5 (6) involvement because he can't sue the americans. I'm sure they would treat his case with the request it deserves and f**k him off. Still, good old GB will foot the bill!
 
But Jarrod, you are travelling on a passport that hasnt been altered or falsified. You havent been captured in Karachi having been for several months on a "cultural tour" at the various "drug clinics" that the Taleban were known to be running in their very advanced country. If this is an Ethiopian Citizen with leave to remain here what was he doing with a "British Passport".

Dodgy to the core, dont know why we are wasting time hosting him here deciding on his future.
 

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