How to deal with gender changing colleagues?

Alsacien

MIA
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#1
Just got an all staff email from the big boss staying that a bloke we work with will be coming into work next week as a woman.
Apparently the guy has had body hair removed by laser and has started hormone treatment, we only noticed that he had let his hair grow longer. According to the email "he/she/it in transition" now has to live as a woman for a year before getting the green light to have his danglies lopped off.
We have been made aware of all the laws that apparently apply to this situation - none of which seem to cover my strong urge to take the p1ss and laugh hysterically while thinking about the Life of Brian scene Loretta/Stan and foetus gestation in boxes...in fact if I even suggest that he makes his nuts into a souvenir key fob I will end up in serious kak.

Any ideas :?
 
#2
Religion.

Anyone of them will have something about abominations and the like and how you must cast them out/stone them/take the p1ss mercilessly.

Every time you see it comeing then just make the sign of the cross/holy horns/sphagetti etc and call out LOUDLY " Begone foul shade".

If the boss gets uppity then just claim religous persecution :)
 
#3
I would suggest you do and say nothing. While what he is doing maybe considered to be outrageous, demented, perverted or evan evil by some, what difference will it make to you?

Where I work there is a lady in similar circumstances, i.e. he is going through the change to a she. I treat her exactly as she wishes to be treated. She is good for a laugh and if you have a serious question she will answer it.

Mind you she beats almost everyone handsdown when the lamps are swinging as we sit on sandbags. Whenever a story starts with "When I was in......." Hers start with "When I was a man.......".
 
#5
Check out Legs posts over on Blogs. Beaten to it by EX-STAB :D
 
#6
Apart from the obvious "beat it to death, its the kindest thing" scenario, i would suggest never get drunk at a do where it may be attending, last thing you want, is to forget it was a guy and pull the ugly bird at the end of the night.
 
#7
Don't:

Smile at it.
Talk about anything but work-related issues in its presence or earshot.
Tell any jokes whatsoever.
Talk to it if you can communicate by e-mail.
Organise any 'official'/semi-official functions that it might wish to attend.
Send out round-robins advertising after-hours/lunch time drinks. Invite only those you wish to attend and always omit at least one normal bore in order that you can defend any allegations of discrimination.

Do:

Apply for a transfer as soon as possible
Ensure there is a selection of both female and male porn in the lavatories
 
#8
whatever you do, don't call him/her/it "a woman walt". Apparently this 'isn't the done thing'
 

Alsacien

MIA
Moderator
#9
I am happy to fight for his right to have babies, its his business not mine - but I am pretty sure I cannot do it with a straight face - especially as my office is opposite the womens bog...... :oops:
 
#10
Since you've haven't put this in the NAAFI I take it you are after a grown up response, therefore, I would treat them with respect, don't go OTT, just be courteous and polite. Don't be worried, he/she will be more worried than you, it will be a major day for them. I would maintain a workable relationship with her/him and not make a big deal of it.

The bosses will be ultra-sensitive to the transgender's needs and will be making sure he/she is not on the receiving end of ANY discriminatory remarks, no jokes however much you're tempted!
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
theoriginalphantom said:
whatever you do, don't call him/her/it "a woman walt". Apparently this 'isn't the done thing'
:judge: :judge: :judge: :judge: :judge: :judge: :judge: :judge:
 
#12
Respond to the e-mail, explaining that no amount of snipping, nipping and tucking can change someones gender, and that regardless of how he mutilates himself he will still be a man.
Gender reassignment is utter nonsense, treat him precisely as you would any other male colleague.
 

Alsacien

MIA
Moderator
#13
sandmanfez said:
Respond to the e-mail, explaining that no amount of snipping, nipping and tucking can change someones gender, and that regardless of how he mutilates himself he will still be a man.
Gender reassignment is utter nonsense, treat him precisely as you would any other male colleague.
Apparently even calling him repeatedly by his male name is a prosecutable offense.
Unfortunately he also has no sense of humour (not surprising in his mental state I guess), or he would at least rock up wearing a mini-skirt and "24hr take the p1ss out of me" T-shirt on his first day......
 
#14
#15
sandmanfez said:
Respond to the e-mail, explaining that no amount of snipping, nipping and tucking can change someones gender, and that regardless of how he mutilates himself he will still be a man.
Gender reassignment is utter nonsense, treat him precisely as you would any other male colleague.
Not always possible. When 'Kim' followed me into the Ladies' Loo at the financial institution where I worked, I could have slapped its face if it had still been Steve.

Made me feel very queasy.
 

Legs

ADC
Book Reviewer
#16
Or for a sensible reply (this isn't the NAAFI Bar)...

Treat HER as you would treat all other women. Don't be afraid to mention the subject, but take the level of banter from her. She will soon let you know where the invisible line is.

She will be feeling nervous as hell. The best thing you can do is act normal. Even (if this doesn't dent your machismo) make her a coffee.

Do try hard to remember to use the correct pronouns (She, her etc). That is one of the hardest things for you to do, and one of the most embarrassing things for her to correct you on. On e-mails/letters/notices etc use her correct new name. Invite her with you on group drinks and meals. Don't let her feel sidelined.

She knows people are talking about her. She knows that many of you will be laughing. Don't do it in front of her. She also just wants to get on with the rest of her life. Treat her with respect and maintain her dignity is all that is required.
 
#17
Walk over smile and say

"I've always fancied you. Do you want to go out on a date some time"
 
#18
Legs said:
Or for a sensible reply (this isn't the NAAFI Bar)...

Treat HER as you would treat all other women.
Fair enough then - ignore them until you want sex. But in this case that would mean permanent exclusion unless you are one of those devotees of Amsterdam specialist sex emporia.
 
#19
Legs said:
Or for a sensible reply (this isn't the NAAFI Bar)...

Treat HER as you would treat all other women. Don't be afraid to mention the subject, but take the level of banter from her. She will soon let you know where the invisible line is.

She will be feeling nervous as hell. The best thing you can do is act normal. Even (if this doesn't dent your machismo) make her a coffee.

Do try hard to remember to use the correct pronouns (She, her etc). That is one of the hardest things for you to do, and one of the most embarrassing things for her to correct you on. On e-mails/letters/notices etc use her correct new name. Invite her with you on group drinks and meals. Don't let her feel sidelined.

She knows people are talking about her. She knows that many of you will be laughing. Don't do it in front of her. She also just wants to get on with the rest of her life. Treat her with respect and maintain her dignity is all that is required.
Or alternatively ignore him. It's just attention seeking.
 
#20
If you got on with him before hand. Then you are a two faced cnut and a coward if you treat "Him" any differently now because he's wearing womens clothes and shaving his legs.

However if he wasn't your flavour of the month before he decided he wanted to buy a frock, why go out of your way to make an effort to accomodate him. Just keep ignoring and or avoiding him as you would any other person you didn't like.

What I'm saying is don't make a special effort for anyone. As equal oppurtunities is about not treating someone "less" favourably because of who they are. So if you start making brews and sucking up to Miss Brian Smith then you are sh1tting all over the rest of your colleagues and technically commiting a discipline offence unless you start making them brews and sucking up to them for wearing clothes that suit their sex!

:D
 

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