how the hell can the Gunners be so wrong?

#1
the title of this thread will clearly open a mass of comedy abuse but it's time to pull up the soap box and rant!

Regular adjutant fails 2 x PFT or whatever they are called now, and what do the gunners do? berate him and put him on a 3 month bender like the rest of he soldiers would be (obviously with a detailed remedial PT programme); how stupid of me to think so. surely it would be fairer to promote the poor soul to an acting major and give him a Battery to command. Having failed a PFT prior to leave you would have thought the self conscious and diligent officer would train some of his fat ass off to regain some credibility and allow a modicum of understanding for the slave to his desk; however on return from leave the Gym buster played a blinder stating CO's PT would be a steady state run. Great bluff! once all were assembled in the gym the programme had changed to a PFA. The last man in (behind a soldier has tried to discharge for failing PFT's) was the adjutant, with a time that a girl wouldnt pass with.

am I wrong to be offended by this preferrential treatment of a chief cake eater? lead from the front??
 
#6
Sounds like normal policy. Fail 2 x PFA's in the same trg year and get put on a bender. Policy applies to everyone. If he was smart he would have known the QMSI was bluffing and arranged an urgent phonecall at the same time.
 
#7
Don't be silly, without double standards, it just wouldn't be the Royal Artillery now would it, or did you ever hear of an Artillery Officer's body being used as a gun plank?
 
#11
Can't see the problem. It's only a PFT. He's probably excellent at other aspects of his role.
 
#13
Yes, but if you're busy and can't generally be arsed. After all there's a job to do, maybe he was covering for some gurner who was always away playing sport.
 
#15
Agreed might have a med reason, might have better things to do (he is the Adjt afterall).


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Perhaps his fitness level is indicative of the overall importance placed on fitness in the unit? I served in units where the emphasis on personal fitness varied wildly - although if the CO did not care for it, that attitude seemed to pervade....
 
#16
CO was first on that pfa, not particularly good in his job as adjt!
no matter what his job he needs to pass the most basic of fitness tests, how can he administer the discipline for other soldiers for the same offence!!
 
#17
Quite easy, it's a rank system, not a popularity contest. You'll do as you're ******* told and suffer the consequences if you don't.
 
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#18
Yes, but if you're busy and can't generally be arsed. After all there's a job to do, maybe he was covering for some gurner who was always away playing sport.
How can anyone in a position of aurthority expect to earn the respect of the soldiers under them if they're too lazy to put in the minimum amount of effort required to run a mile and a half in 10:30 or less?

I regularly see officers and other people in busy jobs that prevent them from taking part in organised Coy/Plt PT either running to and from work or getting out running or going to the gym for an hour at lunch time.
 
#19
How can anyone in a position of aurthority expect to earn the respect of the soldiers under them if they're too lazy to put in the minimum amount of effort required to run a mile and a half in 10:30 or less?

I regularly see officers and other people in busy jobs that prevent them from taking part in organised Coy/Plt PT either running to and from work or getting out running or going to the gym for an hour at lunch time.
Way, wayyyyy back in the 80's I was a SNCO in the Lifeguards LAD at Windsor.

A new Colonel arrived.

He was ex Them.

He came out on a BFT (as it was then) and pissed it in under 9 minutes.

He was wearing a No2 shirt and tie.

That was the beginning of the end, of the half arrsed fitness training programme that was then in place.

FFS.
 
#20
Way, wayyyyy back in the 80's I was a SNCO in the Lifeguards LAD at Windsor.

A new Colonel arrived.

He was ex Them.

He came out on a BFT (as it was then) and pissed it in under 9 minutes.

He was wearing a No2 shirt and tie.

That was the beginning of the end, of the half arrsed fitness training programme that was then in place.

FFS.
Monty did much the same when he took command of a Division in southern England post-Dunkirk. Instituted compulsory PT, route marches and cross-country stuff for all ranks. Hundreds of fat, over-age, unfit field and general officers speedily found themselves out on their arses
 
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