How much does a CR2 cost?

#1
hello tankies

How much would it be to buy one of these beauties, and how does that compare to service life costs?

Been asked in a civvie forum...

TIA

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#3
Edited for mongy double posting.

I'm not a tankie though so not sure if I count - will be soon with some luck though so I thought I'd push my luck 8) .
 
#5
Is that the basic model? What about with sand filters/skirts and upgraded armour?? How much extra to upgrade the cassette/cd player to an IPod integrated sound system?

Taxi for HH
 
#7
£ 3.8 million pound each at FABS, (Final Agreed Build Standard), but bear in mind the British Army variant was the GL model and not the GTi variant, no shock there, they insisted the track and running gear was changed to a cheaper version (Blair), and then spent twice as much wondering why it fell apart, spooky we now have an upgraded track that has solved this self made problem, smart procurement eh :lol:
 
#8
I remember at Bovvy, when they were showing off the 'new' Khalid? to visiting Middle eastern types, and on a cold start one of the tracks fell off :)
 
#9
two-four-albert said:
£ 3.8 million pound each at FABS, (Final Agreed Build Standard), but bear in mind the British Army variant was the GL model and not the GTi variant, no shock there, they insisted the track and running gear was changed to a cheaper version (Blair), and then spent twice as much wondering why it fell apart, spooky we now have an upgraded track that has solved this self made problem, smart procurement eh :lol:
The University in Newcastle (coincedentally not many miles form Vickers on the Scotswood Road) has a development dept for tracks, routinely running track designs at speeds of over 70mph reliably I gather.
The technlogy and ability is there to produce the GTi quite comfortably :D
 
#10
two-four-albert said:
£ 3.8 million pound each at FABS, (Final Agreed Build Standard), but bear in mind the British Army variant was the GL model and not the GTi variant, no shock there, they insisted the track and running gear was changed to a cheaper version (Blair), and then spent twice as much wondering why it fell apart, spooky we now have an upgraded track that has solved this self made problem, smart procurement eh :lol:
I take it, Cmdrs Floating HUD, S Line, Ghia, Titanium X, Type R and Elegance didn't feature at all then??? TTTTWWWWAAAAAATTTTTSSSSSSS in government!!!! :x
 
#12
Sod me with all the cut backs do you have to buy your own now ????
I would have thought MOD would have supplied them , but knowing New Liarbour nothing would surprise me
 
#15
two-four-albert said:
£ 3.8 million pound each at FABS, (Final Agreed Build Standard), but bear in mind the British Army variant was the GL model and not the GTi variant, no shock there, they insisted the track and running gear was changed to a cheaper version (Blair), and then spent twice as much wondering why it fell apart, spooky we now have an upgraded track that has solved this self made problem, smart procurement eh :lol:
To be fair, they were repeatedly warned that the cheapest option would be the most expensive option in the long run, but the financiers always have their way! And the upgrades cost a lot of money, because VDS was able to recoup the money it lost on the original fielding standard (which was crap...).

Litotes
 

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#17
Litotes said:
To be fair, they were repeatedly warned that the cheapest option would be the most expensive option in the long run, but the financiers always have their way! And the upgrades cost a lot of money, because VDS was able to recoup the money it lost on the original fielding standard (which was crap...).

Litotes
You mean like running a Jaguar XK420 engine in a Scorpion on CombatGas (<2*) when the Jaguar XK420 ran on 5*. Bulk purchase of petrol and replacement plugs and points came from different budgets, so why should the petrol-purchasing bean-counters care?

Well I remember in 1977 seeing the POL storeman in Aliwal looking dazed and confused after taking a tanker-load of "CombatGas" and being told as he signed for it that he was now the proud owner of a tanker-load of 5*. He swore me to secrecy - I never told a soul. I have to admit that the Squadron Leader's FFR never ran better in its life than after an immediate fill-up.

Sadly within half an hour of the tanker driving off, there was a queue - well as long as it took for every petrol-engined vehicle in the garrison - to fill up. Word did get out courtesy of the bush telegraph

There wasn't a plugs-and-points-related issue in the garrison for two weeks until the 5* had all been burnt.

The POL storeman had asked the tanker driver, "Why?" and got the response, "Because there was a mix-up with the work tickets. Oh and don't go buying 5* in Burbage for a few weeks."
 
#18
AlienFTM said:
Litotes said:
To be fair, they were repeatedly warned that the cheapest option would be the most expensive option in the long run, but the financiers always have their way! And the upgrades cost a lot of money, because VDS was able to recoup the money it lost on the original fielding standard (which was crap...).

Litotes
You mean like running a Jaguar XK420 engine in a Scorpion on CombatGas (<2*) when the Jaguar XK420 ran on 5*. Bulk purchase of petrol and replacement plugs and points came from different budgets, so why should the petrol-purchasing bean-counters care?

Well I remember in 1977 seeing the POL storeman in Aliwal looking dazed and confused after taking a tanker-load of "CombatGas" and being told as he signed for it that he was now the proud owner of a tanker-load of 5*. He swore me to secrecy - I never told a soul. I have to admit that the Squadron Leader's FFR never ran better in its life than after an immediate fill-up.

Sadly within half an hour of the tanker driving off, there was a queue - well as long as it took for every petrol-engined vehicle in the garrison - to fill up. Word did get out courtesy of the bush telegraph

There wasn't a plugs-and-points-related issue in the garrison for two weeks until the 5* had all been burnt.

The POL storeman had asked the tanker driver, "Why?" and got the response, "Because there was a mix-up with the work tickets. Oh and don't go buying 5* in Burbage for a few weeks."

On a similar note, we did a Recce Sqn(1) exercise to the West Country, (Avon Expresss IIRC) Tidworth to deepest Cornwall on a variety of routes.
Although there was a POL vehicle we were given Fuel Vouchers. Mmm tasty.

Conversations with forecourt owners were of the, "Well, I've got eight of them, they need about 60/70 gallons each, so what's the form on undeclared discount items then?" sort.
Jolly helpful they were.

It was alleged that there was a great deal of static running on RTB.
As there was everytime the A(CE)MF(L) troop returned from Norway or Denmark.

(1) I can't remember, but we might have been called Support Sqn, it changed every few months. We had three Tank Sqns and one Recce Sqn. From the depths of memory, UK Armd (Type B).
Possibly.
 
#19
PE4rocks said:
(1) I can't remember, but we might have been called Support Sqn, it changed every few months. We had three Tank Sqns and one Recce Sqn. From the depths of memory, UK Armd (Type B).
Possibly.
Isn't it strange how history repeats itself? :roll: Most, in fact all Armd Regts now have three tank sqns (14 CR2), a Medium Armour sqn (16 Scimitar) and a Recce Tp! :D
 
#20
soprano54 said:
PE4rocks said:
(1) I can't remember, but we might have been called Support Sqn, it changed every few months. We had three Tank Sqns and one Recce Sqn. From the depths of memory, UK Armd (Type B).
Possibly.
Isn't it strange how history repeats itself? :roll: Most, in fact all Armd Regts now have three tank sqns (14 CR2), a Medium Armour sqn (16 Scimitar) and a Recce Tp! :D
And you will be there long enough to see it all change back again.
 

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