How many VCs has the Royal Signals?

#6
If the Yeomanry Sigs have them, why aren't they included? I know that if a VC was awarded to a TA soldier the Reg Infantry, Engineers and Arty they still claim them.
 
#8
47 (Middlesex Yeomanry) Sig Sqn (V)

LAFONE, Alexander Malins - 1/1st County of London Yeomanry

WATSON, Oliver Cyril Spencer - 1st County of London Yeomanry

94 (Berkshire Yeomanry) Sig Sqn (V)

POTTS, Frederick William Owen - Berkshire Yeomanry

I think its claimed by the (regular/yeomanry) regiment they were in at the time, i.e. taked Capt Albert Ball, the Royal Flying Corps claim his, although he wasn't in the RFC but attached RFC from a TA Regt of the Sherwood Foresters, the TA Regt he was badged is now Royal Engineers (although 87 Sig Sqn took on most of the ex Robin Hoods @ SDR). Another VC from that TA Regt is claimed WFR/Sherwood Foresters, weird
 
#9
There have been no awards of the VC to Signallers - or indeed to RE Signallers before the Corps was founded.
 
#11
The closest VC I think we can claim is a New Zealander (or maybe a an Aus) RE Telegraph Bn chap who won a VC at Gallipoli in the First World War. Not sure about the TA connection but i'm sure the Yeomanry chaps must have got something when they were machine gun battalions or cav etc.
 
#12
polar said:
smoojalooge said:
didn't speckled jim win one
The pigeon? Think it was in sodier mag last year.. whats the medal called?
I believe its called the dicken medal - basically the animal vesion of the VC

I remember being reminded on several occasions by other cap badges that the bravest ever member of our corps was a F**kin pigeon!
 
#13
Or are you trying to get at the point of Victor Charlie, or Nathaniel Victor from American Vietnam films... ie Gooks in the wire?
 
#14
Good news!!
Cpl Cyril Goyton Basset VC. Cyril was a New Zealand signalman (REngr's? in the days of Empire when NZ units fitted into UK Corps etc). He won his VC at Gallipoli as a lineman repairing crucial comms lines in open ground under enemy fire. Have met his family and he has a special place in RNZSigs as he is the only Commonwealth Signalman to win a VC.

Ask any Kiwi Sig!

Cheers TheRobster
 
#15
OK, I know that the TA VC's were not won by men actually carrying out signallers duties, but is it right to sweep the memories of those brave men under the carpet now that their units have been re-roled?

Surely the Royal Signals would be proud to have the VC's as their own?
 
#16
polar said:
During my recruit training at Helles Barracks, before I was awarded my pay, I had to answer a question..

"How many VC's has the Royal Corps got?"

"One" I said, the Sgt took the piss and said, "no we don't have any"

" Are you sure?" I asked " As we have one"

The Troop OC and he both looked at me blankly, so I had to explain to the whole troop about Potts VC, the Troop commander listened in and when I'd finished said " Well done Sig XXX, if nothing else you have proved you know your Sqn's history" let me take my money, as I saluted to leave added " Sig XXX and the rest of his room may have the evening off, any man who can give the Corps a VC has earnt it" I kid you not..

Some nights when I'm in the Bar I look across at his picture on the wall and remember that day 19 years ago.

I wonder if any other Corps or Arms claim Potts VC as theirs? I prefer to think of it as a Territorial Army VC and a Berkshire Yeomanry one at that :D

edited for spelling
 
#17
A units role changes as the years go by. As a Rifleman, I learned that my predecessors were bog standard infantry, skirmishers, mechanised, lorry mounted, anti-tank gunners, gliderborne and labourers. I know that it has been within the same corps but I know that the VC's won by my regiment were won by battalions that carried out varying roles. Just because a VC was won on horseback doesn't mean it has no value because that mans unit has re-roled and carries out a different job. It that was trhe case very few units could claim to have a history of VC winners.

A TA VC? Potts was in the TA just as much as he was in a Yoemanry Regiments, and just as much as he was a slodier of the British Army. I think it's time the Royal Signals added these VC's to their official history. It is an insult to the VC if they don't.
 
#18
Rifle-Green-Sex-Machine said:
I think it's time the Royal Signals added these VC's to their official history. It is an insult to the VC if they don't.
Doing that opens are very big can of worms, many other TA Sqns could start claim old titles and gaining more VC's.
My unit could claim an old title (Robin Hoods), if we did that, would that mean the mercians loose 2 of their(/our) VC's, a set of drums, mess silver and part of the mess funds (that 1 WFR took)? Plus we could also add Hallams to the title gaining yet more VC's silver etc from the Yorkshires.
 
#19
If a regiment wins a VC, it should be forever associated with that unit. If that unit is now a squadron/Company, or even a platoon/troop outpost, then that units parent unit should get the honours. If another unit has "stolen" that honour then it should be returned.
 
#20
Rifle-Green-Sex-Machine said:
If a regiment wins a VC, it should be forever associated with that unit. If that unit is now a squadron/Company, or even a platoon/troop outpost, then that units parent unit should get the honours. If another unit has "stolen" that honour then it should be returned.
Do you mean the TA unit or Regt/Corps they were serving? How would you sort it all out

RHR->7th Sherwood Foresters->REng->RArty->7th Sherwood Foresters->D Coy 3 WFR-> disbandment with most soldiers going to RSigs.
 

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