How many people here WILL have the vaccine and are comfortable doing so?

What's your view about vaccination?

  • I'd never take a vaccination of any kind, not ever.

    Votes: 6 1.1%
  • I'd never take the covid vaccine, but might take one for a virus like smallpox.

    Votes: 21 4.0%
  • I'll wait to see what the covid vaccine side-effects are. I may take it if it all seems safe.

    Votes: 51 9.8%
  • I'd reluctantly take the covid vaccine if the penalties for not taking it may be too much to bear.

    Votes: 16 3.1%
  • I'm okay with taking the vaccine, as I feel the overall benefits are likely to outweigh any risks.

    Votes: 432 82.8%

  • Total voters
    522
Which numbers did you pick to infer that?

He'll only be happy when 100% are vaccinated so he can say 100% of those dying are vaccinated.
He has ignored the bit about double vaxxed deaths per 100,000 is 26.2 but unvaxxed is 847 per 100,000.
 

naffnickname

MIA
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Our family got covid - 4 at the same time. 2 double-jabbed but one with suppressed immunity. One youngster with asthma single jabbed. One very healthy youngster unjabbed. vaccination and the level of vaccination made enormous differences. The very healthy unjabbed youngster came very close one night to having an ambulance called as breathing was so hard. Stupidly he was due his first jab through work that week.
 
Our family got covid - 4 at the same time. 2 double-jabbed but one with suppressed immunity. One youngster with asthma single jabbed. One very healthy youngster unjabbed. vaccination and the level of vaccination made enormous differences. The very healthy unjabbed youngster came very close one night to having an ambulance called as breathing was so hard. Stupidly he was due his first jab through work that week.

My daughter, a double jabbed nurse aged 52, caught it a while back and was off sick for a couple of weeks. My grandson, 11 not jabbed, also got it but got over it quick in a couple of days.

She doesn't know if one of the patients gave it to her and she passed it to her son or whether he got it school and passed it to her.

As she's diabetic she was extremely glad to be double vaxxed as she knows some who weren't and didn't make it. Of course, she comes into contact with thousands especially on home visits so her experience of the jabbed and double jabbed would be far above mine.

Thankfully she's over it now but will take every precaution when visiting.
 

Snookie

Old-Salt
Had my booster jab(Pfizer) on Wednesday in the sleepy village of Bruton.
Sore arm etc Wednesday night so Thursday morning felt as right as rain and thought that was that.
However Thursday night started to feel rough with a banging headache, took myself off to my scratcher with some paracetamol but fcuk me then had the worst 4 hours of my life.
Honestly thought I was dying, pins and needles all over my body, every muscle was aching, was freezing one minute and boiling the next.
Had sweat pissin off me.
Must of nodded off and woke up at 4am and every symptom had gone but felt really drained and washed out.
All back to normal now.
Not a pleasant experience at all.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Booster the day, half dose Moderna.
Only issue was due to a mix up they only had the bariatric needles left, longer than the usual ones, to get through the fat!
 
Our family got covid - 4 at the same time. 2 double-jabbed but one with suppressed immunity. One youngster with asthma single jabbed. One very healthy youngster unjabbed. vaccination and the level of vaccination made enormous differences. The very healthy unjabbed youngster came very close one night to having an ambulance called as breathing was so hard. Stupidly he was due his first jab through work that week.
Hope everything is OK now
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
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You piling on the blubber?
Or normal for our far-flung brethren?

Apparently normal to send all one kind of needle to one site and the other kind to a different site, rather than a mix of both to each
 

naffnickname

MIA
Book Reviewer
@RangdoOfArg thank you yes, it was earlier this year - got early Delta in hindsight. So early that the overnight body pain and seized neck and jaw had me thinking I had tentanus and 111 sent me into casualty just in case, although I had had a covid contact and was isolating. Lower abdo pain and over efficient bowels not registered as relevant symptoms at that point. 2 paracetemol and the pain went, 1 week for the sweaty poorlies to go. 6 weeks to get back out of bed. Just wiped. After that excruciating first night, quite managable if I could suddenly sleep.

Thank goodness for the jab. We both had Oxford. Quarantine contact service were great: not jut about checking you were staying indoors as you should - thanked for the committment, recognising it was difficult, checked we had everything and could suggest support services if we need it, chatted as they said that was an important part of the service, gave covid info. I also agreed to be part of two optional tests, did one. Luckily we had the zombie pantry and Daughterene did a drop of fresh goods to the front door and another friend did a small drop in the second week.
 
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From table 4, it seems those who are vaxxed are x2 likely to die.

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Got my booster (Pfizer) same as first two, plus got my winter flu jab. One of each in each shoulder.

Injection sites a bit sore that night, carried onto next morning. Couple of paracetamol, and that was it. No further side effects. Glad I got them.
 

You really cannot stop demonstrating just how simple you are, can you?

70% of hospitalised Covid patients are vaccinated, but the vaccines are working​

Belgian health minister Vandenbroucke (Flemish socialist/Vooruit) told the health select committee up to seventy percent of Covid patients in Flemish hospitals are fully vaccinated. The figure may raise an eyebrow, but on closer inspection doesn’t mean the vaccines are not working.
Colin Clapson
Sat 30 Oct 10:00
333 patients were in a Flemish hospital with Covid between 16 and 22 October. 70.9% were fully vaccinated. 29.1% were not. However, the facts still show that people with Covid who are unvaccinated end up in hospital more quickly than patients who are fully vaccinated. In Flanders over 90% of adults are fully vaccinated and this group is far larger than the group of unvaccinated people.
Look at Belgium as a whole are the figure for the same period shows 54% of Covid patients in hospital were fully vaccinated, a reflection of the lower vaccination rates in some parts of the country.
The figures also show that overall and compared with earlier waves fewer people are ending up in hospital when they catch Covid. The number of hospitalisations during the current fourth wave is markedly lower than during the three previous waves. Hospitalisations, admissions to ICUs and the number of patients on a ventilator are all far lower as this Sciensano chart shows.
A comparison between September/October last year and this year shows over 5.5% of cases ended up in hospital last year, whereas this year the figure hasn’t exceeded 3.5%.
Steven Callens of Ghent University Hospital UZ explains why fully vaccinated people are ending up in hospital: “The delta variant is catchier. Corona measures were relaxed in October and protection against mild illness through vaccination does start to wane after six months”.
Fully vaccinated patients in hospital are often older and may have underlying health issues.
“Few healthy vaccinated people end up in hospital. If they do, hospitalisation is shorter” says Callens. “In critical care many patients are not fully vaccinated”.
Figures from the health minister show 60% of patients in Flemish ICUs are fully vaccinated, 40% are unvaccinated.”
Deaths too are lower during the fourth wave: at the height of waves two and three over 200 people were dying a day. Today the figure stands at 17 as the seven-day average.

 

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