How many people here WILL have the vaccine and are comfortable doing so?

What's your view about vaccination?

  • I'd never take a vaccination of any kind, not ever.

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • I'd never take the covid vaccine, but might take one for a virus like smallpox.

    Votes: 11 2.5%
  • I'll wait to see what the covid vaccine side-effects are. I may take it if it all seems safe.

    Votes: 48 10.8%
  • I'd reluctantly take the covid vaccine if the penalties for not taking it may be too much to bear.

    Votes: 13 2.9%
  • I'm okay with taking the vaccine, as I feel the overall benefits are likely to outweigh any risks.

    Votes: 370 83.5%

  • Total voters
    443
Tested on who exactly? Doesn't matter now because technically they are being tested now as I type...on the public. Spouting nonsense? Have you not ever picked up a daily newspaper and read the nonsense coming out of No.10?
You're either a sockpuppet of one of the more tedious trolls on here, or just a new tedious troll.

Please be quiet. You're not more enlightened than anyone; you don't know more than the scientists who are at the leading edge of dealing with the pandemic.

You're just a unyielding dullard.
 
43,000 souls lined up for it? Willingly? Do you honestly take that at face value? So you're going to take Bill Gates word for it then? A bloke who is obsessed with depopulation and making money?
Feel free to refute the published test reports - your unwillingness to believe basic facts does not alter their veracity.
 
You're either a sockpuppet of one of the more tedious trolls on here, or just a new tedious troll.

Please be quiet. You're not more enlightened than anyone; you don't know more than the scientists who are at the leading edge of dealing with the pandemic.

You're just a unyielding dullard.
"the scientists who are at the leading edge of dealing with the pandemic."..................So funny what you say and what is scary is that you really believe in what you wrote and so do millions of like minded wallys! You remind of Indiana Jones when he asked "Who?" "Top Men!"
 
It called me a sheeple how sweetly unorigional.



I do Miss 118 - that was real conspiralunacy - this one is just dull
I've got a feeling of who it may be - will PM you.
 
"the scientists who are at the leading edge of dealing with the pandemic."..................So funny what you say and what is scary is that you really believe in what you wrote and so do millions of like minded wallys! You remind of Indiana Jones when he asked "Who?" "Top Men!"
You've not explained why you (falsely) believe the Vaccine to be untested, or not properly tested.

You have no argument or evidence to back up any of your claims.
 

DaManBugs

LE
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43,000 souls lined up for it? Willingly? Do you honestly take that at face value? So you're going to take Bill Gates word for it then? A bloke who is obsessed with depopulation and making money?
You might want to do some research on the subject of testing and on whom. For the past 25 years, I've been translating medical documents for a company called Medical Outcomes in Lörrach, Germany. Practically all of the big pharma companies have transferred their testing to India because of all the compensation claims they were getting in "other" countries. The unsuspecting folks in India are given a coupla thousand Rupees and told to take this or that medication. You wouldn't believe how many come down with all manner of "side-effects", which are all duly documented so that the ruthless pharma companies can make alterations to their formulas. Of course, such results won't be included in any reports the pharma companies actually submit to the authorities, but that's the way they handle it.

Due to that, testing on 43,000 individuals is a massive number. It's far more normal to restrict such tests, to between 500 and 2,000 persons. So I'd say that if such a large number of folks were involved and experienced minimal symptoms, it should be an indicator that the vaccine is as safe as they could make it.

MsG
 
As if you would take the time to read the evidence.
Please show your "evidence".

Edit: You will of course forgive me if I immediately discount it, if it consists mainly of talking head YouTube videos, anything by Andrew Wakefield or non-peer reviewed studies.
 
You might want to do some research on the subject of testing and on whom. For the past 25 years, I've been translating medical documents for a company called Medical Outcomes in Lörrach, Germany. Practically all of the big pharma companies have transferred their testing to India because of all the compensation claims they were getting in "other" countries. The unsuspecting folks in India are given a coupla thousand Rupees and told to take this or that medication. You wouldn't believe how many come down with all manner of "side-effects", which are all duly documented so that the ruthless pharma companies can make alterations to their formulas. Of course, such results won't be included in any reports the pharma companies actually submit to the authorities, but that's the way they handle it.

Due to that, testing on 43,000 individuals is a massive number. It's far more normal to restrict such tests, to between 500 and 2,000 persons. So I'd say that if such a large number of folks were involved and experienced minimal symptoms, it should be an indicator that the vaccine is as safe as they could make it.

MsG
Yeah alright. I've taken that onboard. That would explain where they could find 43,000 souls from. I asked a simple question and you have given me an answer. Good day to you.
 
It's all in here.

Enjoy!
Ahh, Mr Coleman - the former Doctor who spouts conspiracy theories. I'll probably avoid that to save having to hammer a nail into my head afterwards.
 
Very true, I can't change that. It's all down to the sheeple to wake up and use their brains. But that won't ever happen now. That ship has long since sailed.
You are trying way to hard with your trolling and kinda cut your own legs out. If the sheeple won’t wake up since that ship has long since sailed according to you, why are you on here if not to troll? There is nothing for you to legitimately gain from posting if you believe what you stated, or is it just attention you crave?
 

RedDinger

War Hero
As if you would take the time to read the evidence.
I've had the vaccine, and even if it does kill us all soon, I'll be glad I took it. I would hate to live in the dystopian world left, fighting Mad Max for food.
 
I will not be having the vaccination.

Why?

For 1, vaccines are normally tested & trialled over several years, not months. Why has the UK Government granted immunity from prosecution to the drug companies?

no they aren’t - the reason why they normally take longer to develop is due to a lack or resources and money. Big pharma would rather spend a couple of million developing a new antacid pill that will pull in billions in profit than invest billions in a vaccine that will only get them a few millions back. As a result money, lab time, scientists, volunteers for test cohorts, etc go to a new version of Rennie.
When my daughter went for her jab, not only did they question if she might be pregnant (a standard question) but also about future intentions about children - why? The vaccine is safe and tested, isn’t it? We don’t know the longer term effects.
Out of an abundance of caution (warning - that is a scientific term) they decided not to test the vaccine on women who were up the duff. This is now being carried out with a number of vaccines - there is no concern of any danger to pregnant women, however the tests have to be done. Of interest is the official Advice on this - which is if you want to get it, then get it.
ETA: There is nothing new about any of the vaccines - all of the excipients and adjuvants are years old. The mRNA technology has been in development for decades and is routinely used in therapeutics (there are another 9 vaccines that use it too, plus cancer treatments).
We know that in vaccines there are no long term effects - there are thousands of studies into this and the only thing they have found is positive benefits

The only new thing in any of them is the portion designed to develop an antigenic response - but again this is just a variant on an old bit of tech.

I’ve had COVID (confirmed be testing) and know about a dozen friends & relatives who are the same. None of us had any symptoms and were tested by chance.

this is called survival bias. I have walked away from two RTA’s without a crash, and been in two very serious conflicts. Nobody would dispute the seriousness or danger to life of either of those.

ETA: The Brazilian variant is apparently infecting ALOT of those previously infected. Oops...
I know 2 people who died due to COVID restrictions - 1 died after failing to speak to a healthcare provider, 1 (aged 31) died 2 days after being misdiagnosed over the phone.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying COVID isn’t real. I’m not saying COVID hasn’t killed anyone, and I’ve met people who have now got long term medical complications due to COVID. Please don’t misunderstand my mindset - the virus is real and dangerous, but only dangerous to some. To most of us, it’s little more than an inconvenience.

Funny how you can dismiss a disease as being an inconvenience, that if not for quite stringent epidemiological measures would bring the NHS to its knees. How do you know more than those running our health system?
I’ve had the virus and despite several ‘at risk’ medical conditions, didn’t even realise the infection until I had a random test.
Survival bias again.
Am I scared of COVID? Absolutely not.

Your lack of knowledge in this area does not refute the seriousness of this disease.
Am I concerned about taking a vaccine not properly tested? Yes, it’s not going to happen.
The vaccines that have been rolled out in the UK have been tested to the exact same rigorous (another science word) standards as any other vaccine on the vaccine schedule. In the case of the Pfizer vaccine, the testing cohort was 1/3rd larger than is normal. All results have been published and are in the public domain.

Let those who want to hide away, do so. Let those of us who want to get on with life (and accept risk) do so.
Thats great - nice of you to want to kill off those unable to get the vaccine or are clinically vulnerable. This might be termed as a form of eugenics. Instead lets reach herd immunity through the vaccine and not kill thousands eh?

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Yeah alright. I've taken that onboard. That would explain where they could find 43,000 souls from. I asked a simple question and you have given me an answer. Good day to you.
For the trials of their vaccine, Pfizer used testing cohorts in the US and Germany for their phase 1/2 trials.

For the Phase 3 trails, additional cohorts were used - in the US alone over 350,000 volunteered to be part of clinical trails for vaccines, with the Pfizer vaccine being trialed there, the UK and South Africa (for the latter it was selected due to the high infection rate, not relative wealth) with a cohort study of ages 16 to 85.
 

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