How many people here WILL have the vaccine and are comfortable doing so?

What's your view about vaccination?

  • I'd never take a vaccination of any kind, not ever.

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • I'd never take the covid vaccine, but might take one for a virus like smallpox.

    Votes: 11 2.5%
  • I'll wait to see what the covid vaccine side-effects are. I may take it if it all seems safe.

    Votes: 48 10.7%
  • I'd reluctantly take the covid vaccine if the penalties for not taking it may be too much to bear.

    Votes: 13 2.9%
  • I'm okay with taking the vaccine, as I feel the overall benefits are likely to outweigh any risks.

    Votes: 374 83.7%

  • Total voters
    447

Slime

LE
Point is, wasn't the whole idea that if you play along at their games I.E take their untested vaccine then the lockdown, masks and all other restrictions would be lifted immediately. Otherwise, what was the point taking the vaccine if nothing good has come about it?

Which untested vaccine are you referring to?
All the Covid vaccines used in the U.K. were fully tested.

Can you quote even one single person in government who said all restrictions would be lifted immediately?

As for for your last sentence, that was idiotic even compared to the rest of the make believe nonsense you are spouting.
 
Far too little is known about the virus for it to be sure that those who've had the vaccine, and are immune, won't become benign carriers. Continuing with mask-wearing and other measures is a safety precaution until most folks have been vaccinated.

MsG

Bugsy, with you being a top boy in the SWP, if there any chance you could have a word with the Socialist worker and point out to them that any BAME in the UK not wanting the vaccine is probably down to the fact they are thick as shit rather than racism based on some old shit that happened in the USA before many of them were even born? Thanks

 
You want an untested vaccine, have it.
It has been tested fully and they were not starting from scratch with the development.

As you mention that you are overweight, you are probably familiar with some of the excellent work that the BHF does. Their simple summary is here:


COVID is caused by a Coronavirus - like SARS is. They have used that existing research, and the huge cash injections (significant time spent developing a vaccine is often waiting for funding) to develop it rapidly, as well as diverting research / resources away from other areas for the shot-term. The normal safety tests have been conducted - however as funding / approvals were not an issue there has been no hanging around. In effect they've been able to utilise the existing research as a springboard, and have not had the normal bureaucracy in their way.

It's like Ford developing a new version of a Ford Focus, rather than creating a car for the first time.
 
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WightMivvi

War Hero
Of course it's just an act. You've got to be a special kind of idiot to believe the nonsense spewed out from the government. Proven liars.
Has anyone else noticed that, when challenged, anti-vaxxers eventually descend into a variation of “Boris grrr”?

I get the impression that your views are driven more by issues with trust and paranoia than issues about health.

The government is evil therefore anything they want must also be evil.
 

Slime

LE
Has anyone else noticed that, when challenged, anti-vaxxers eventually descend into a variation of “Boris grrr”?

I get the impression that your views are driven more by issues with trust and paranoia than issues about health.

The government is evil therefore anything they want must also be evil.

As an observation on anti vaccination types.

The ones I’ve seen and heard say that wearing a face mask does nothing to help.
It’s rather amusing that they have developed this view since they have been asked to wear one.

They didn’t have this view prior to last year, and spent their entire life up to that point not questioning why medical staff or people like surgeons doing operations..........both in real life and in TV and film wore them to prevent infection. :)
 

Slime

LE
Thread drift.

It has been amusing to see or hear media reports about the person with a new strain of the virus who is missing and can’t be found.

While the person is missing, the media seem to be having trouble reporting where the person is believed to be.............as the county where the person is has also disappeared :).

The area concerned used to be a county, but then became the unitary authority of Avon, then after 1996 became South Gloucestershire.

Living in an area that was in Somerset or Gloucestershire, then Avon and now South Glos certainly has its problems!

Ive heard that the person is in Gloucestershire in many reports, but of course that is a county, and a different area. If a journalist uses a search function for the address most returns will return ‘Avon’ even though Avon ceased to exist in ‘96.

Apologies for thread drift :)
 

Nornironman

Old-Salt
Views have changed to militant over the past few month.

I've a had a close run with cancer. It's scared the shit out of me. It's also given me a faith in modern medicine I never had. Technology has saved my bacon, although given me some sleepless nights. The treatment I got was relatively new, but it's been the dog's bollocks. I'd have been dead by Christmas without it.

I'll merrily take the vaccine. I'm grabbing every minute I can.
 
Thread drift.

It has been amusing to see or hear media reports about the person with a new strain of the virus who is missing and can’t be found.

While the person is missing, the media seem to be having trouble reporting where the person is believed to be.............as the county where the person is has also disappeared :).

The area concerned used to be a county, but then became the unitary authority of Avon, then after 1996 became South Gloucestershire.

Living in an area that was in Somerset or Gloucestershire, then Avon and now South Glos certainly has its problems!

Ive heard that the person is in Gloucestershire in many reports, but of course that is a county, and a different area. If a journalist uses a search function for the address most returns will return ‘Avon’ even though Avon ceased to exist in ‘96.

Apologies for thread drift :)
The person didn't properly register the home testing kit and I understand a huge forensic operation is underway to find the subject, who could be anywhere in the country - given that over two weeks have passed since the test result was 'orphaned'. The other results were found by genomic sequencing of randomly selected Covid-positive samples; there is also the possibility the subject is already dead.
 
I might have shared a link to this guys page previously on here (not sure - the gin/age interface again).

He is a well respected biochemist and an excellent science communicator - his page is a bit science heavy, but well written and excellent sources. Great for shutting up the morons as they usually look at it and utterly fail to understand what he is talking about.

In this Article he explains (despite what a couple of commentators on here insist) that the vaccines were not rushed.
 

Batman garley

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As an observation on anti vaccination types.

The ones I’ve seen and heard say that wearing a face mask does nothing to help.
It’s rather amusing that they have developed this view since they have been asked to wear one.

They didn’t have this view prior to last year, and spent their entire life up to that point not questioning why medical staff or people like surgeons doing operations..........both in real life and in TV and film wore them to prevent infection. :)
Dr Fauci warned the public last year in March NOT to wear masks.
 
I might have shared a link to this guys page previously on here (not sure - the gin/age interface again).

He is a well respected biochemist and an excellent science communicator - his page is a bit science heavy, but well written and excellent sources. Great for shutting up the morons as they usually look at it and utterly fail to understand what he is talking about.

In this Article he explains (despite what a couple of commentators on here insist) that the vaccines were not rushed.
Very interesting website. Just added to my favourites.
 

Batman garley

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Which untested vaccine are you referring to?
All the Covid vaccines used in the U.K. were fully tested.

Can you quote even one single person in government who said all restrictions would be lifted immediately?

As for for your last sentence, that was idiotic even compared to the rest of the make believe nonsense you are spouting.
Tested on who exactly? Doesn't matter now because technically they are being tested now as I type...on the public. Spouting nonsense? Have you not ever picked up a daily newspaper and read the nonsense coming out of No.10?
 
Tested on who exactly? Doesn't matter now because technically they are being tested now as I type...on the public. Spouting nonsense? Have you not ever picked up a daily newspaper and read the nonsense coming out of No.10?
This you ?

 
Tested on who exactly? Doesn't matter now because technically they are being tested now as I type...on the public. Spouting nonsense? Have you not ever picked up a daily newspaper and read the nonsense coming out of No.10?
Well the Pfizer vaccine was tested on over 43000 people - as a test cohort that is about a 3rd larger than is normal. All results have been published for this trial and are in the public domain.

The only testing being done on the public is as part of the Ph4 monitoring - which is normal for a vaccine.

You really are rather badly informed on this aren’t you?
 
Dr Fauci warned the public last year in March NOT to wear masks.
So last March Dr Fauci gave some advice, based on the then known science regarding a new species of virus.

Did you stop to consider that since that moment in time our understanding of this virus has increased somewhat, and with an increased understanding of the respiratory illness it causes then the advice might change?
 

Batman garley

On ROPS
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Well the Pfizer vaccine was tested on over 43000 people - as a test cohort that is about a 3rd larger than is normal. All results have been published for this trial and are in the public domain.

The only testing being done on the public is as part of the Ph4 monitoring - which is normal for a vaccine.

You really are rather badly informed on this aren’t you?
43,000 souls lined up for it? Willingly? Do you honestly take that at face value? So you're going to take Bill Gates word for it then? A bloke who is obsessed with depopulation and making money?
 

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