How long will Sunak last

[Biscuits_Brown]

The fellows who drink port and smoke cigars tell me that Badenoch is first choice. I agree with them

Being brutally honest, I don't see the Tories winning an election with a POC at the helm.

 

[WightMivvi]

Being brutally honest, I don't see the Tories winning an election with a POC at the helm.

Why?

 

[lokiuk]

Being brutally honest, I don't see the Tories winning an election with a POC at the helm.

Sunak is ethnic, so why should it be any different if the PM was a POC?

 

[pimpernel]

The Tories are playing all their cards at the moment, and RS is probably more representative and appealing than the Etonian profile.
Just wait until we go from the phoney electoral war to the full on one where class and colour will be front and centre.
We are in Interesting days the newly ennobled Lord Cameron appears to be going hard on Ruanda, has even toddled over to Ukraine and is keeping his dubious days in the wilderness (2016 -present) in the margins.
Lord Haig, aka the late Tory Boy - remember that is talking hard on Defence and procurement. Have to wonder why they/Tories did nothing over the last 13 years!
And that's from me a lapsed Tory.

 

[exbleep]

Sunak is ethnic, so why should it be any different if the PM was a POC?

Did Sunak win an election, then? I think you know the point he was making.

 

[Biscuits_Brown]

Sunak is ethnic, so why should it be any different if the PM was a POC?

Hasn't won a general election as leader yet, and I don't think he's gonna. But that's probably not entirely sure to his ethnic background.

Why?

Because they require the element of the vote that dont much like "those people".

 

[lokiuk]

Did Sunak win an election, then? I think you know the point he was making.

I still think the world has moved on, now if they were Jewish it might be a different matter

The amount of hatred spewed by sections of the media would not be pleasant

 

[Biscuits_Brown]

I still think the world has moved on

Much of it, those slowest to change though are people of a conservative nature. I think Sunak is costing them in the polls for his privilege and his ethnicity both.

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

This.

Leaving aside the PM post as Sunak will not release control of the gravy train reigns, we need a new leader.

We all know that we didn't vote for Sunak, we were hijacked, we don't really want him as our Party leader.

I've got no idea why Braverman is getting all excited either. The fellows who drink port and smoke cigars tell me that Badenoch is first choice. I agree with them.

Agreed that she's young and fairly inexperienced, however, it's pretty much a given that we'll have our arrses handed to us on a plate next year, and rightly so, this Government is a shitshow, the magnitude of the effluent pile has not been seen in generations, and this will give Badenoch time, as Leader of the Opposition to get to grips with our Party.

I and many other grassroots members are dismayed by current events. Whole change is desperately needed, those characters hanging onto power for powers sake need booting onto the back benches and Cameron, the cheeky cnut has to go.

Afraid, once he parks his ermine arrse on the Lords' benches, the used female sanitary item will have permanent run of the Palace and will be free paid to spread his corrupt, noxious airs.
What an utter stitch-up.

 

[WightMivvi]

Because they require the element of the vote that dont much like "those people".

Ah, you’re saying tory voters are racist so would never vote for a POC?

How does your bigotry cope with the fact that Badenoch was voted into Parliament by voters in a relatively rural part of a county which itself is the haven for lots and lots of white Londoners who moved out of the London because they don’t like all the immigrants coming in?

Saffron Walden is 93.5% white.

The issue that the troglodytes of the left fail to understand is that colour is irrelevant nowadays; it’s culture that’s important. Therefore, a black person with conservative beliefs will get the support of conservative voters.

 

[Biscuits_Brown]

Ah, you’re saying tory voters are racist so would never vote for a POC?

How does your bigotry cope with the fact that Badenoch was voted into Parliament by voters in a relatively rural part of a county which itself is the haven for lots and lots of white Londoners who moved out of the London because they don’t like all the immigrants coming in?

Saffron Walden is 93.5% white.

The issue that the troglodytes of the left fail to understand is that colour is irrelevant nowadays; it’s culture that’s important. Therefore, a black person with conservative beliefs will get the support of conservative voters.

It isn't an issue I'm likely to die in a ditch over, but I've seen as many references online to Sunak being (insert racial epithet of choice) as I have to virtually any other complaint about him. So, I'll just respectfully disagree with you he's not getting a percentage of what could be conservative vote simply by virtue of the fact that he's brown.

 

[Bravo_Bravo]

The influence on things that mean something to him during his tenure, the connections with others in power and wealth, the money he can make for others and the changes he can make to benefit himself, his family and friends.

Some of that I would imagine.

I cannot recall many Tory supporting ARRSErs levying such criticisms at Johnson who IMO was absolutely in it for his own benefit.

Genuinely bizarre how he gets a free pass, while the notably rich Sunak is thought to be in ot for himself.

 

[PortreeKid2]

Some fun facts and figures

National Debt is 97.8% of GDP

October debt interest repayment was £7.5 Billion

October borrowing was £15 Billion

I think Sunak is costing them in the polls for his privilege and his ethnicity both.

Sunak is costing in the polls - But I do not believe it is anything to do with his privilege or ethnicity. You might want to start with stabbing Johnson in the back and working forward from there. Not forgetting his 5 judgement pledges.

• Pledge 1: Halve inflation.
• Pledge 2: Grow the economy. ...
• Pledge 3: Reduce debt. ...
• Pledge 4: Cut NHS waiting lists and times. ...
• Pledge 5: Stop the boats.

Abect failure apart from pledge 1. Which arguably was nothing to do with him.

 

[WightMivvi]

It isn't an issue I'm likely to die in a ditch over, but I've seen as many references online to Sunak being (insert racial epithet of choice) as I have to virtually any other complaint about him. So, I'll just respectfully disagree with you he's not getting a percentage of what could be conservative vote simply by virtue of the fact that he's brown.

Ah, so epithets like “coconut”? Hardly the sort of thing Tory voters would do…

I’m reminded of a news report I read many years ago when Obama was first seeking election as President. People had real concerns that his colour would go against him.

So a UK newspaper sent a reporter to the Deep South to canvass opinions. This reporter knocked on the door of one house, and a little old white lady came to the door. When asked, she happily declared she would vote for Obama. The reporter then asked how her husband would vote, and the little old lady shouted the question back into the house.

The reply came back loudly and clearly.

”Oh, I’m voting for the n****r.”

Race really isn’t that much of an issue for the Right. But it’s a huge issue for the Left. It’s probably why we’ve had more POC in senior positions in the Tory party than there has been in the Labour party.

 

[headgear]

Being brutally honest, I don't see the Tories winning an election with a POC at the helm.

you've got to be kidding! seriously, Tory voters don't give 2 sh*ts about colour but they sure as sh*t do care that the person is competent and 'conservative' - something that the 'party' itself keeps subverting by putting in their own choice who fails every single time due to being a leftist total pe*is - and I include May in that group!