How long will Sunak last

[lokiuk]

It's not my claim.

You shouldn't really troll in CA.

I was simply questioning your claim, now that you've clarified you can't back it up, lets move on

 

[FourZeroCharlie]

I was simply questioning your claim, now that you've clarified you can't back it up, lets move on

'Troll Accuses Others Of Trolling'.

. . . and the Universe rolls and tumbles . . .

 

[Bravo_Bravo]

'Troll Accuses Others Of Trolling'.

. . . and the Universe rolls and tumbles . . .

Me?

I'm on Ignore, remember?

 

[Artee]

Rishi is not that popular amongst the party members, he lost to Truss and they fixed the game to get him shoehorned in after he (allegedly) spiked her mini budget.

Changing leaders (again) might give them a chance to win in the upcoming GE.
As much as a knob Johnson is, he got people voting for the Tories, something Rishi has failed to do.

Plus it might be a scorched earth tactic by Truss/Johnson supporters to screw Rishi over.

This.

Leaving aside the PM post as Sunak will not release control of the gravy train reigns, we need a new leader.

We all know that we didn't vote for Sunak, we were hijacked, we don't really want him as our Party leader.

I've got no idea why Braverman is getting all excited either. The fellows who drink port and smoke cigars tell me that Badenoch is first choice. I agree with them.

Agreed that she's young and fairly inexperienced, however, it's pretty much a given that we'll have our arrses handed to us on a plate next year, and rightly so, this Government is a shitshow, the magnitude of the effluent pile has not been seen in generations, and this will give Badenoch time, as Leader of the Opposition to get to grips with our Party.

I and many other grassroots members are dismayed by current events. Whole change is desperately needed, those characters hanging onto power for powers sake need booting onto the back benches and Cameron, the cheeky cnut has to go.

 

[nightnurse]

doubt he will get through this unscathed either

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-20/sunak-did-not-consult-scientists-on-eat-out-scheme-despite-obvious-risks

 

[Mr_Fingerz]

doubt he will get through this unscathed either

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-20/sunak-did-not-consult-scientists-on-eat-out-scheme-despite-obvious-risks

He, Johnson, and Hancock have all come out of today's evidence very badly.

"Andrew O'Connor KC: People didn't find Matt Hancock a reliable, trustworthy colleague... what's your experience?

Sir Patrick Vallance; He had a habit of saying things which he didn't have a basis for..

AO: He said things that weren't true?

PV: Yes"

 

[lokiuk]

This.

Leaving aside the PM post as Sunak will not release control of the gravy train reigns, we need a new leader.

We all know that we didn't vote for Sunak, we were hijacked, we don't really want him as our Party leader.

I've got no idea why Braverman is getting all excited either. The fellows who drink port and smoke cigars tell me that Badenoch is first choice. I agree with them.

Agreed that she's young and fairly inexperienced, however, it's pretty much a given that we'll have our arrses handed to us on a plate next year, and rightly so, this Government is a shitshow, the magnitude of the effluent pile has not been seen in generations, and this will give Badenoch time, as Leader of the Opposition to get to grips with our Party.

I and many other grassroots members are dismayed by current events. Whole change is desperately needed, those characters hanging onto power for powers sake need booting onto the back benches and Cameron, the cheeky cnut has to go.

Sunak doesn't need the money, so why did he once losing the leadership vote agree to be given the role of Party leader?

What is in it for him, he didn't even get to choose his own Chancellor, so how much real power and authority does he have

What does he get out of being PM?

 

[Tyk]

Sunak doesn't need the money, so why did he once losing the leadership vote agree to be given the role of Party leader?

What is in it for him, he didn't even get to choose his own Chancellor, so how much real power and authority does he have

What does he get out of being PM?

Probably being in the biggest position of power, prestige and the long term kudos of having held the role. To the really wealthy it's not the cash, but the pull, now and in the future.

 

[Artee]

Sunak doesn't need the money, so why did he once losing the leadership vote agree to be given the role of Party leader?

What is in it for him, he didn't even get to choose his own Chancellor, so how much real power and authority does he have

What does he get out of being PM?

At a guess, it looks pretty good having PM of a major nation on your CV.

But there are also the rich mans toys.
Switched on professional bodyguards that he doesn't pay for.
Chauffer's in nice cars, that he doesn't pay for.
Swooping along the highway with a highly trained, Armed Police Escort. That he doesn't pay for.

Means to earn even more money.
The extremely lucrative after dinner speaking circuit. (rich people want to be even richer)
The book deals.

And the human element.
The ego trip.
The boasting rights.
The richest men in the country have to stop at red traffic lights...Unless you are the PM.

And finally.
Fcuk knows. I just wish he'd go.

 

[LordVonHarley]

Probably being in the biggest position of power, prestige and the long term kudos of having held the role. To the really wealthy it's not the cash, but the pull, now and in the future.

And his backers get to influence UK policy....a lot....

Who benefited when he was in positions of power?

Not the British public.

 

[PepperSeaDog]

The extremely lucrative after dinner speaking circuit

Never understood this one myself, the last thing I want after eating is to listen to some clown making a speech.
The only thing I can think of worse than that is a speech before dinner thereby keeping me from my food.
Seriously, what is the attraction of it? Don't understand it at all.

 

[Bravo_Bravo]

Sunak doesn't need the money, so why did he once losing the leadership vote agree to be given the role of Party leader?

What is in it for him, he didn't even get to choose his own Chancellor, so how much real power and authority does he have

What does he get out of being PM?

I've said it before, I think it's a simple matter of wanting to serve the Nation.

 

[Grownup_Rafbrat]

I've said it before, I think it's a simple matter of wanting to serve the Nation.

After dinner, with drinks, an amusing speech can make the night.

Jack Charlton was the best one I ever heard. Over 20 years later, his dits about Gary Sprake still make me smile.

 

[wetsmonkey]

At a guess, it looks pretty good having PM of a major nation on your CV.

But there are also the rich mans toys.
Switched on professional bodyguards that he doesn't pay for.
Chauffer's in nice cars, that he doesn't pay for.
Swooping along the highway with a highly trained, Armed Police Escort. That he doesn't pay for.

Means to earn even more money.
The extremely lucrative after dinner speaking circuit. (rich people want to be even richer)
The book deals.

And the human element.
The ego trip.
The boasting rights.
The richest men in the country have to stop at red traffic lights...Unless you are the PM.

And finally.
Fcuk knows. I just wish he'd go.

The influence on things that mean something to him during his tenure, the connections with others in power and wealth, the money he can make for others and the changes he can make to benefit himself, his family and friends.

Some of that I would imagine.

 

[slipperman]

Never understood this one myself, the last thing I want after eating is to listen to some clown making a speech.
The only thing I can think of worse than that is a speech before dinner thereby keeping me from my food.
Seriously, what is the attraction of it? Don't understand it at all.

I recall a particularly tedious speech by a 3 star at a Mess Dinner at Blandford Camp. After what seemed an age, he concluded by saying “I look forward to continuing this discussion at the bar” - much to the amusement of colleagues around me, who had all struggled to stay awake during his dull, technical waffle.
I am certain that particular VSO is not getting rich on the after dinner circuit!