how long can you be on duty for.

#1
how long can you be on duty for.

just want to know how long you can be on duty for. as a mate of mine is on 6 weeks duty for 24 hours a day none stop. and the duty involves drivein.

any help in this matter would not go a miss.

thanks
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#2
Depends if its a sleeping duty
 
#4
Have a look at ArmyNET you barracks room lawyer's biatch, you! There is a DIN or ACI or whatever they are called these days on there.
 
#6
MSI64 said:
Depends if its a sleeping duty
yes but you are on the phone and pager 24/7
and what about drivers hours.
as we fill in the drivers hours sheet but that means nothing.
 
#8
[quote
as we fill in the drivers hours sheet but that means nothing.[/quote]

I think you will find that that is bollax.

Speak to your MTO or Master Driver.
 
#9
You can be on duty 24/7/365.

Ask the guys in 11 EOD Regt. The CO has a waiver for the drivers hours - and in any event they don't apply to HM Forces, contrary to popular belief.

I can't be bothered to find the legislation, someone else no doubt will.
 
#10
Sammy The Cat said:
You can be on duty 24/7/365.

Ask the guys in 11 EOD Regt. The CO has a waiver for the drivers hours - and in any event they don't apply to HM Forces, contrary to popular belief.

I can't be bothered to find the legislation, someone else no doubt will.
Yes they do, unless you are in an operational unit/environment.
 
#11
heidtheba said:
Sammy The Cat said:
You can be on duty 24/7/365.

Ask the guys in 11 EOD Regt. The CO has a waiver for the drivers hours - and in any event they don't apply to HM Forces, contrary to popular belief.

I can't be bothered to find the legislation, someone else no doubt will.
Yes they do, unless you are in an operational unit/environment.
Can't be bothered to argue as it is too late.

But to get to the point the secretary of state for defence decreed that HM Forces would comply with drivers hours as far as was reasonably practicable - this has nothing to do with operations, where in fact drivers hours are adhered to where possible.

The point is HM Forces do not have to comply - they have to comply as far as is reasonable in the circumstances, unlike a civilian firm who have to comply irrespective of the circumstances.

The army is full of MDs who do not actually know what the HASAWA 1974 says nor understand the principles of the duty of care, and have not read the european working time directives.

Take it or leave it - I am not arrsed.
 
#12
heidtheba said:
Sammy The Cat said:
You can be on duty 24/7/365.

Ask the guys in 11 EOD Regt. The CO has a waiver for the drivers hours - and in any event they don't apply to HM Forces, contrary to popular belief.

I can't be bothered to find the legislation, someone else no doubt will.
Yes they do, unless you are in an operational unit/environment.
Conventional Munitions Disposal tasks fall under the heading of OP Whatever. So the guys at 11 EOD are on Operational Duty when they deploy to the task. It's a bit more of a gray area once the task is complete and the team are to return to base. This bit may well fall under a non-operational move, but it needs somewone with a better understanding of the MOD Regs to figure out the answer.

Wrap, why on earth are you asking this on an open forum?

The stock get out clauses are often quoted by the hierachy and there may be some interesting questions to answer, should someone have an RTA which involves a civillian fatality. It's only a matter of time, with 11 Regt attending 2000+ incidents a year; I forget what the mileage covered is, but the law of averages say its going to happen soon.
 
#14
Cuddles said:
Have a look at ArmyNET you barracks room lawyer's biatch, you! There is a DIN or ACI or whatever they are called these days on there.
At last I have a bitch, hang on, its not one of those fat lezzers mentioned in that locked thread is it? :omfg:
 
#15
Tell your "friend" to stop whining and get on with his work. I am sure you, sorry, your friend isn't the only one.

You get paid 365 days a year, get on with it and look froward to when thing ease off a bit or leave comes round. It could be a lot worse - talk to the guys in Iraq, Afghan etc
 
#17
The answer to this question is contained within Annex C to Chapt 9 of JSP 800 Vol 5. Drivers Hours Regulations Scheme D was written specifically for those who are on duty 24 hrs a day. I am sure that if you find the time to read this regulation it will answer all your questions.

Sammy the Cat - please note that it is the HASAW etc act 1974 - if your going to make a quote please get it right!!
 
#18
theonethatknows said:
Sammy the Cat - please note that it is the HASAW etc act 1974 - if your going to make a quote please get it right!!
You are quite right of course.

Personally I think most people were aware of the piece of legislation I was referring to, although I accept that I missed off the "etc".

Just out of interest, is there anyone out there who believed the HASAWA 1974 and the HASAW etc Act 1974 were two different pieces of legislation. Clearly someone must have hence your desire to put me right, a nice thought for which I will be eternally and graciously in your debt.

Thank you once again - I think I love you.
 
#19
Tell your friend to go to the SQMS, and ask for 1 x tub of "Dry your eyes Princess" and 1 x tub of "Man the **** Up". Apply liberally to the spinal area.

I don't have the NSNs sorry, ask a stacker....
 
#20
I think I'm glad not to be in the RLC any more, I never thought I'd say that. Is this what things have come to when lads don't want to work they just try to dredge up some legal crap for why they shouldn't do their job.
My personal record for non stop duty was about 72 hours of radio stag followed by a nice little couple of hours drive ending with a couple of days of kitchen duty while the troop got on with the warry sh!t thy went for. The joys of being in Rad Tp.
The only thing I had to complain about was the totally bone messages the troopie wanted me to encode cos she wanted to get in the combats of the other troopie, everything else was just another day at the office.
It's not a job, it's an adventure
 

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