How Labour plotted to smear daughter of new army chief....

the_boy_syrup

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#1
From the Mail no doubt whet/ashie/sven will be along to tell us it's a load of bollacks but they do have form for this sort of thing and it makes you wonder

How Labour plotted to smear daughter of new army chief... whose only 'crime' was to work for Cameron

A Labour plot to smear the new head of the Army, General Sir David Richards, because of his daughter’s ‘crime’ of working for David Cameron was exposed last night.

The threat to target the General, who took up his new job just nine days ago, was one of the real reasons that Labour MP Eric Joyce resigned as an aide to Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth last week.

Former soldier Mr Joyce has told friends he attended a meeting at the Ministry of Defence where a discussion took place on how to target Sir David’s predecessor, General Sir Richard Dannatt, for criticising the Government’s failure to give enough support to British troops.

And The Mail on Sunday has established that Mr Joyce was also disturbed to hear Labour colleagues discuss Sir David’s 25-year-old daughter, Joanna Richards, who recently became Mr Cameron’s diary secretary.

Well-placed sources say Mr Joyce feared Labour was preparing to deploy more smear tactics against General Richards if he stepped out of line like General Dannatt.


Link here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aide-horrified-talk-exposing-job-Cameron.html
 
#2
the_boy_syrup said:
From the Mail no doubt whet/ashie/sven will be along to tell us it's a load of bollacks but they do have form for this sort of thing and it makes you wonder

How Labour plotted to smear daughter of new army chief... whose only 'crime' was to work for Cameron

A Labour plot to smear the new head of the Army, General Sir David Richards, because of his daughter’s ‘crime’ of working for David Cameron was exposed last night.

The threat to target the General, who took up his new job just nine days ago, was one of the real reasons that Labour MP Eric Joyce resigned as an aide to Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth last week.

Former soldier Mr Joyce has told friends he attended a meeting at the Ministry of Defence where a discussion took place on how to target Sir David’s predecessor, General Sir Richard Dannatt, for criticising the Government’s failure to give enough support to British troops.

And The Mail on Sunday has established that Mr Joyce was also disturbed to hear Labour colleagues discuss Sir David’s 25-year-old daughter, Joanna Richards, who recently became Mr Cameron’s diary secretary.

Well-placed sources say Mr Joyce feared Labour was preparing to deploy more smear tactics against General Richards if he stepped out of line like General Dannatt.


Link here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aide-horrified-talk-exposing-job-Cameron.html
Yeat another fact-free story. Look at this:

"Well-placed sources say Mr Joyce feared Labour was preparing to ..."

So an anonymous source says that Mr Joyce just "feared" that something was going to happen. Nothing like a few facts, is there?

Hold the fekkin' front page!
 
#4
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
 
#5
Right, so in our democratic (ha, hahahahahahaha) country, it is now wrong for our public servants siblings to have free will and political choices of their own?

Neu Arbeit will one day (that being the day after the next election) be on the receiving end of their NDSP policies and I for one can't fcuking wait. Just as long as their own policies are kept in force just long enough to rub their dirty corrupt little noses in it before being recinded and our country being once more turned back into a free society.
 
#6
This government is now so discredited that it has to maintain its smear tactic campaign against those who may not agree with the government's aims.

Brown has only been back at work 10 days, and already he has been caught lying about the Lockerbie bomber's release, the state of the economy (of course we are coming through recession) and most recently a PPS at the MOD has revealed the extent of smear tactics being used to keep the new CGS in control, and knows about the campaign being waged against Sir Richard Dannat.

Of course earlier in the year we had the McBride resignation, and we are led to believe that Brown was nothing to do with it........ Yeah right!
 
#7
You are never going to prevent people expressing their personal views in a private setting. For example, a lot of soldiers express views in the NAAFI and the mess (and on ARRSE) that are not the policy of the British Army and which those individuals would not dream of expressing officially. In a show of bravado to a couple of mates, I will probably threaten to 'smear' the CO again next week. Shock horror.
 

OldSnowy

LE
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Book Reviewer
#8
Again and again I think the Government can go no lower, but always they surprise me.

This smear story - and God knows, they have sufficient form for everyone to believe it - will be overshadowed tomorrow by the revelation that the PM vetoed compensation payments by Libya to IRA victims in order to protect BP's business interests - even though the USA had got similar payments! Nice to see a 'socialist' obeying his true masters.....

How can this creature sleep at night (unless with the help of powerful drugs, of course.)
 
#9
Aunty Stella said:
Right, so in our democratic (ha, hahahahahahaha) country, it is now wrong for our public servants siblings to have free will and political choices of their own?

Neu Arbeit will one day (that being the day after the next election) be on the receiving end of their NDSP policies and I for one can't fcuking wait. Just as long as their own policies are kept in force just long enough to rub their dirty corrupt little noses in it before being recinded and our country being once more turned back into a free society.
You are allowed to have choices so long as they are in consort with the stalinists in power......
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
the_boy_syrup said:
From the Mail no doubt whet/ashie/sven will be along to tell us it's a load of bollacks
ashie said:
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Yeat another fact-free story. Look at this:

"Well-placed sources say Mr Joyce feared Labour was preparing to ..."

So an anonymous source says that Mr Joyce just "feared" that something was going to happen. Nothing like a few facts, is there?

Hold the fekkin' front page!
Thanks you've restored my faith that the alarm bells are still working :D
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
nigegilb said:
I take back everything I have ever said about Eric Joyce


almost
Does make you wonder if it's getting to much even for loyal members of the Goverment

Or will we see more Labour MP's distancing themselves from the Goverment as a skin saving exercise
 
#13
These people are genuine scum. It amazes me how vile they are.
 
#14
Bugsy said:
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
Given the manifest immorality of The Mail, yes, I fekking do doubt the story.
 
#15
I applaud Ashie's loyalty to the ruling clique. He's showing considerable backbone and moral courage in fighting their corner here, of all places. Shame it's wasted effort, but there you go, we in the British Army know all about forlorn hopes and gallant but useless gestures.

That said, it's a loser - the current Government has successfully managed to lose the presumption of truth which ordinarily most enlightened citizens would make when looking at Government statements. They are thus always assumed to be lying, whatever the context or content. I'm sure some, at least, of what the Shower Being Booted Into Obscurity In May 2010 At The Latest says is true, it's just hard to know what and very much easier to assume that they're lying, despicable, dishonourable scum, given that the last 12 years demonstrated this rather neatly to be the case most of the time.

It wouldn't surprise me if discussions had been going on inside MoD re Sir David and how to get at him. The shower of useless chip-on-shoulder-never-done-a-day's-work-in-their-lives inverted snobs who constitute (especially) the MoD ministerial team are going to be horribly afraid of senior officers, who are universally smarter, better educated and meaner than their Ministers and will thus seek to have some way of getting back at them.
 
#16
ashie said:
Bugsy said:
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
Given the manifest immorality of The Mail, yes, I fekking do doubt the story.
Jaisus, Ashie, that's a piss-poor argument if ever I heard one. Are you Brahms, or what?

There's a fundamental difference in expected standards between a commercial enterprise such as a daily rag and the folks responsible for the economy (and much more) of a whole country. Or is that too complicated for you at the moment?

MsG
 
#17
Bugsy said:
ashie said:
Bugsy said:
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
Given the manifest immorality of The Mail, yes, I fekking do doubt the story.
Jaisus, Ashie, that's a piss-poor argument if ever I heard one. Are you Brahms, or what?

There's a fundamental difference in expected standards between a commercial enterprise such as a daily rag and the folks responsible for the economy (and much more) of a whole country. Or is that too complicated for you at the moment?

MsG
Oh what a get-out. The report may be mendacious twaddle, but it's only a commercial enterprise.

Well that's all right then.

Piss poor argument? Right back at ya Liszt!
 
#18
ashie said:
Bugsy said:
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
Given the manifest immorality of The Mail, yes, I fekking do doubt the story.
Fact-Free-Ashie strikes again. The master of the one line response continues to try to plug a dike with digits.

I am working class Ashie, how do Labour look after my interests?

Are you working class Ashie? If so, what work have you done?
 
#19
The fact that the New Labour government rely on tossers like Ashie, Parapuke and Sven/Whet to keep getting the message across is a clear sign of the government's inability to communicate with the people.

Nobody (apart from the 3 mentioned above) in this country believes a word uttered by the corrupt bunch who purport to be our government, and the fact that they have to resort to smearing those in positions of authority who are conducting their wars is a sure sign of their desperation.

This is the hallmark of a fascist dictatorship
 
#20
ashie said:
Bugsy said:
ashie said:
Bugsy said:
Ashie! In view of the manifest immorality of the present UK gobment, do you really have any doubts that the tossers weren't looking for an opportunity to launch a smear campaign? They do have previous, you know?

MsG
Given the manifest immorality of The Mail, yes, I fekking do doubt the story.
Jaisus, Ashie, that's a piss-poor argument if ever I heard one. Are you Brahms, or what?

There's a fundamental difference in expected standards between a commercial enterprise such as a daily rag and the folks responsible for the economy (and much more) of a whole country. Or is that too complicated for you at the moment?

MsG
Oh what a get-out. The report may be mendacious twaddle, but it's only a commercial enterprise.

Well that's all right then.

Piss poor argument? Right back at ya Liszt!
Well, I induced Ashie to provide more than his usual one-liner. :D

But you're still not getting it, are you, Ashie? I mean about the different standards. Folks read newspapers expecting to keep their tongue in their cheek, it's par for the course. On the other hand, they can reasonably expect folks from their gobment to at least try to be as honest as possible, since their decisions affect their (the readers') lives directly, whereas they're not too fussed if it's really true that Cheryl Cole shaves her minge-mat into a heart shape. Still too complicated for you?

MsG
 

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