How integrated are RMO /GDMO into a unit?

Seth89

Crow
Evening ladies and gents,
As the title suggests, how involved are doctors in the daily routine of the unit they are posted to?

Couldn't really find anything on it apart from that TA doctor thread that crossed well into satire about 4 posts in.

I understand you are there as a doctor first and foremost and treating patients is your primary function. That being said are you just solely viewed as a doctor who happens to wear a uniform or can you get out amongst the very people you are supposed to be looking after, for example if your workload permits take part in a random PT session or something.

I spoke to a couple of careers advisors about it, one didn't really have clue and the other I think would basically have promised the sun, the moon and the stars he was that "enthusiastic".

Just to clarify, I fully understand that you would not be a doctor by day and platoon commander by night, leading the troops charge, up that metaphoric hill☺

What is the officer role of newlying minted army doctor? Or is it just recruiting spin for pretty much the exact same managerial roles you will eventually do in the NHS?

I know oversseas is a different world entirely but what about the day to day on camp?

I'd be interested to hear the arrse perspective, from those who could offer any advice.
 
Evening ladies and gents,
As the title suggests, how involved are doctors in the daily routine of the unit they are posted to?

Couldn't really find anything on it apart from that TA doctor thread that crossed well into satire about 4 posts in.

I understand you are there as a doctor first and foremost and treating patients is your primary function. That being said are you just solely viewed as a doctor who happens to wear a uniform or can you get out amongst the very people you are supposed to be looking after, for example if your workload permits take part in a random PT session or something.

I spoke to a couple of careers advisors about it, one didn't really have clue and the other I think would basically have promised the sun, the moon and the stars he was that "enthusiastic".

Just to clarify, I fully understand that you would not be a doctor by day and platoon commander by night, leading the troops charge, up that metaphoric hill☺

What is the officer role of newlying minted army doctor? Or is it just recruiting spin for pretty much the exact same managerial roles you will eventually do in the NHS?

I know oversseas is a different world entirely but what about the day to day on camp?

I'd be interested to hear the arrse perspective, from those who could offer any advice.

I never saw the doc on PT. Sick parade is usually the same time as PT.

Never saw him anywhere but the med centre.

He'll socialise in the mess, I expect.
 
I shared a mess with an artillery regiment who were very sociable - the only time the MO wasn't the most pi$$ed person in the Mess was when the Padre was in - I sh1t you not. Great times.
 

Seth89

Crow
I shared a mess with an artillery regiment who were very sociable - the only time the MO wasn't the most pi$$ed person in the Mess was when the Padre was in - I sh1t you not. Great times.
Classic medic leading by example and the padre too haha

Thats what I'm getting at really. We can all socialise over a couple of drinks but I mean people tend to bond over the shared struggle if you will. You can have long tough days as a soldier and long tough days as a doctor but where's the commonality?

Treating a dozen complicated cases can be quite draining but it's different to Company Commanders PT for example being a bit "brisker" than usual today or an awful day on the ranges.

I hate to imagine that role as just a specialist who happens to have a uniform with rank markings on it
 

Seth89

Crow
I never saw the doc on PT. Sick parade is usually the same time as PT.

Never saw him anywhere but the med centre.

He'll socialise in the mess, I expect.
He surely made an appearance on exercises or the like?

Is it just join the army, see the med centre!
 
He surely made an appearance on exercises or the like?

Is it just join the army, see the med centre!
No. That's what medics are for.

If you get hurt, they take you to the med centre.
 
At the same Artillery unit I mentioned earlier, we had the traditional SNCOs to Officers inter-mess Christmas 'games afternoon'. This concluded with Flaming Hockey on the hard court in front of the Officers' Mess. Participants were required to have sleeves down, gloves on and wear eye protection. Fire extinguishers were available. Plus as was observed "We also have the MO here!" to which came the reply "Yes, but he's too pi$$ed to stand up"!

Thankfully the Emperor Mong was still in the bar and all went blazingly well! [got some pics somewhere]
 
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semi-serious answer, if you want the "all of one company", pitching in doing everything together, have you considered being an RN doc instead of an army one?

Yes you're still role specific, but that doesn't mean you don't get sucked into whole-ship stuff, and epic runs ashore.

*across 10 years on RR and ARRSE I've also pointed aspirant sailors in the direction of the army and even (god help them) the RAF, so this isn't a case of "the Navy's best." I think it might be worth looking at *for you* though.
 

The_Duke

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No. That's what medics are for.

If you get hurt, they take you to the med centre.
As usual, Offendi is taking his very limited perspective on something and stating it as fact. Our RMO was fully involved in Bn life both military and social. Running the RAP on exercise (real and role play), providing the med element of operational planning, Bn phys.
 
Do what your SNCO tells you


Play golf on a Wednesday while your sickbay lads huff nitrous in the treatment room while doing squats

RAP tent erecting isn't a leadership task leave the lads to it.

Your sole reason to exist and the way your performance will be measured is how Close to 100% jabbed up you can get the unit
 
semi-serious answer, if you want the "all of one company", pitching in doing everything together, have you considered being an RN doc instead of an army one?

Yes you're still role specific, but that doesn't mean you don't get sucked into whole-ship stuff, and epic runs ashore.

*across 10 years on RR and ARRSE I've also pointed aspirant sailors in the direction of the army and even (god help them) the RAF, so this isn't a case of "the Navy's best." I think it might be worth looking at *for you* though.
Obviously no idea what an Army GDMO does, but the one currently in my Wardroom is a full complement Officer, with all that entails - good and bad.
 

Caecilius

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PPE worn? How pathetic. You haven't seen a proper fireball hockey game until you've seen it played by people wearing mostly polyester fancy dress.

I remember the RMO at my last unit being a very good shot with a fireball. He could drink the rest of us under the table as well. To the OP, it depends on the unit but if you're willing to integrate and have fun then I'm sure you'll be included. Just make sure you ask for a unit that has a good mess life in the first place!
 

Seth89

Crow
As usual, Offendi is taking his very limited perspective on something and stating it as fact. Our RMO was fully involved in Bn life both military and social. Running the RAP on exercise (real and role play), providing the med element of operational planning, Bn phys.
Thanks for the info. It's good to see, you can be a bit more involved than treating the injured.
 

Seth89

Crow
Do what your SNCO tells you


Play golf on a Wednesday while your sickbay lads huff nitrous in the treatment room while doing squats

RAP tent erecting isn't a leadership task leave the lads to it.

Your sole reason to exist and the way your performance will be measured is how Close to 100% jabbed up you can get the unit
Not really into golf, so I guess that's a free Wednesday afternoon☺
 

Seth89

Crow
PPE worn? How pathetic. You haven't seen a proper fireball hockey game until you've seen it played by people wearing mostly polyester fancy dress.

I remember the RMO at my last unit being a very good shot with a fireball. He could drink the rest of us under the table as well. To the OP, it depends on the unit but if you're willing to integrate and have fun then I'm sure you'll be included. Just make sure you ask for a unit that has a good mess life in the first place!
A good mess life. Any recommendations?
 

Caecilius

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A good mess life. Any recommendations?
Generally you want to look for a unit that keeps people in one location, like infantry and cavalry. Corps tend to have less exciting mess lives as they post people between units so the messes tend to have an extremely transient population. London based messed tend not to be brilliant either as social events tend to be held in Bodo's rather than the mess.

If you do go to one of the more old fashioned units then be prepared to have compulsory supper each evening in a suit (or black tie). This seems like a pain, but it's enforcing seemingly annoying rules aimed at generating more socialising are what makes the mess life so good. As the RMO you'll be able to excuse yourself from supper when you need to work late or study for an exam anyway.
 
Generally you want to look for a unit that keeps people in one location, like infantry and cavalry. Corps tend to have less exciting mess lives as they post people between units so the messes tend to have an extremely transient population. London based messed tend not to be brilliant either as social events tend to be held in Bodo's rather than the mess.

If you do go to one of the more old fashioned units then be prepared to have compulsory supper each evening in a suit (or black tie). This seems like a pain, but it's enforcing seemingly annoying rules aimed at generating more socialising are what makes the mess life so good. As the RMO you'll be able to excuse yourself from supper when you need to work late or study for an exam anyway.
Gen question - do attached Arms have to purchase the compulsory mess suits that some Regiments* have for their Officers?

*I'm thinking the successors to the QRIH here
 
As usual, Offendi is taking his very limited perspective on something and stating it as fact. Our RMO was fully involved in Bn life both military and social. Running the RAP on exercise (real and role play), providing the med element of operational planning, Bn phys.
Running the RAP on exercise doesn't count
Thanks for the info. It's good to see, you can be a bit more involved than treating the injured.
Psst. The RAP is a med centre in a tent.
 

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