How hard is joining REME/Royal engineer's

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Just wanted to know how hard it is to join REME/RE? Was thinking about applying for Plumbing and Heating, or possibly fabricator.

Can someone tell me what the written assessments are like and if they're easy to pass. Applied for the RAF a few years ago and remember the exam being solid for Engineering trades.
 
#2
If you meet the entry criteria for the REME trade (above C in Maths and English GCSE for most trades) then pop down the AFCO and do the test, they then produce a list of jobs you can go for.

The REME is very diverse and educational standards and 'difficulty' likewise. At one end of the spectrum there are Avionics Techs, to Vehicle Mechanics, Armourer (like @spaz ), Recovery Mechanics who require different levels of academic nous or even Technical Support Specialists who don't require much in the way of thinking at all.

Nothing to lose by going and doing the tests and seeing what is available.

The specific trades you mentioned are all RE, the academic side is likely less than most REME trades but hopefully a Sapper will pop in and correct me if I am wrong.

Note that your pay will also be different depending on the trade so take that into account before deciding on a trade that is 'less' academic.
 
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Close but No Cigar Verti. Don't let the Wedgies hear you say the grades are lower, If you have C grades in Maths, English Lang and Science all trades are open Academically.

Heating & Plumbing C grades and Fabricator D grades in RE but also remember that along with Soldier first and trade second you are mainly a Combat Engineer...so bridge building, Mine Clearance...basically any obstacle on a battefield you will build, destroy, blow up, go through etc etc.

Along with your academics in bost robustness is a vital part of passing AC Selection, whilst there you will also do a Technical Selection Test (TST) basically 55 questions on maths, a BARB Test (phychometric Test) and if you don't get C grades English and Maths your Basic Skills tests Numeracy and Literacy.... make sure you do the practice tests 5 or 6 times and remember BARB is speed and accuracy Getting yourself ready - British Army Website
If you don't get a high enough score on TST and BARB then you won't pass selection for that CEG In laymans terms a Technical job for most RE or REME jobs like Air Tech, Avionics Tech, Electronics Tech or GEO, Surveyor, General Fitter, H&P, Electrician, POM needs a high BARB score and TST score and C grades. Trades Like VM, Recovery Mech, Armourer, Welder, Carpentry, Bricklayer, Fabricator needs D grades and not quite as High TST and BARB. Once you apply online and pass eligibility you will come into the Careers Office for your Army Brief and Individual Candidate Discussion (interview) and they will go through all the jobs.....or look on Role Finder
 
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Does this mean there's the same chance of being killed as an infantry solider? Not that it will put me off or anything, but on the website advertising the REME/RE trades, there isn't much about combat and infantry.

What are the chances of being KIA as a RE/REME solider?

Thanks for your reply
 
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Does this mean there's the same chance of being killed as an infantry solider? Not that it will put me off or anything, but on the website advertising the REME/RE trades, there isn't much about combat and infantry.

What are the chances of being KIA as a RE/REME solider?

Thanks for your reply
I will treat this as a serious question and not a childish comment....SOLDIER FIRST TRADE SECOND......having around a dozen mates killed or seriously injured in Iraq/Afghan and other activities over the years both RE and REME....ALL soldiers could make the ultimate sacrifice. Saying that it is dangerous what ever you do in life...they say driving a fork lift or working on a farm are the two most dangerous jobs so dont be a fork lift driver on a farm.
 
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Would you be posted to afghan/Iraq whilst doing you apprenticeship?
You are possibly being quite innocent when asking the questions you are asking as I have been asked similar questions at schools plenty of times (hasten to add my younger pupils), Unfortunately on this Website these sort of questions can be mistrude into being immature and sometimes by unscrupulous individuals who are after a bite or WAH. It is probably best to ask face2 face with a Careers advisor at your local Army Careers office so that they can see you are not just being pedantic.

To answer your question whilst on your Apprenticeship (Trade training) you would not go on Operational Tours as still a Soldier Under training....once completed both phase 1 and trade training (including Combat engineering training at Minley for RE) you will go to your first unit where your Friendly Fitter Section or RE Troop SNCO will take you under his wing......You may then find you are going out on an Operational Tour if so you will do an intense Package of Operational Training for that threatre of Operations....all Pre Training is different depending where you deploy. I have seen plenty of both RE and REME trademen go on Infantry type tours as soldiers and not tradesmen in the past.

WAH shield is now back in the G10 store
 
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Would you be posted to afghan/Iraq whilst doing you apprenticeship?
...Minley for CE training - Farnborough at night! I've been there man, the horror, the horror!!

Otherwise - as has been said - REME and RE are both very diverse and both end up in combat. Someone had to be in the recovery truck for convoys and some one had to build the bridge to get there. Then again, warehouse fork lift drivers get crushed, farmers get cow kicked or fall in grain silos, builders fall down holes. I was brought up in Plymouth and the night life was evil. Life is dangerous - the positive is that the training will ensure you will be better equipped to get through than most. Have a serious chat at careers office and take things one step at a time. Just one thing, reticence about danger is sensible however there will be occasions when you have no get out and you will face situations. In all seriousness, my worst was when as a lowly RE reservist clerk of works. I was attached to a regular armoured engineer unit. We were in the NAAFI in Krefeld Germany. Reserve girly signallers and reserve girly nurses kicked off. We evacuated quick and sat outside with a crate of beer and the provost. No one as going in there until it went quiet. There was literally blood, hair, snot and teeth everywhere and the girls were not a pretty the next morning. What I'm coming around to is life is strange and life is an adventure. If you worry about something that probably will never ever happen, you will not concentrate and you will certainly make mistakes and then you will be a casualty - probably by falling backwards out of a lorry cab!
Be positive and look for the positive
 
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Is there anywhere I can find a document on the pass marks for specific trades? I've applied to be a Fabricator with Electrician and Plumbing as my second choises.
Theres lots of different documents and other considerations including RAP, Awaiting allocations list, the main thing is get the highest IDST score you possibly can to have a chance of being allocated...if you worry about scores rather than putting 100% in ecerything your focus isn't going to be there. If you put in 100% but don't get allocated then you couldn't of done any better anyway. Main thing for both jobs there are a lot of people going for them and not many vacancies and TBH you need a high A grade (over 124 IDST) to have any chance.....only go down to AC when you know you are at your peek
 

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#17
Sorry is that what happends when taking ADSC? so the fitness tests and what not? get so confused with the amount of exams needed,
The_IRON is on about the whole process including ADSC. Your IDST score is worked out from your performance in all aspects of ADSC. There are no exams to take but you will do the BARB and TST. The RAP, awaiting alloocations list etc are all beyond your control. These are lists of the number of people required for each trade in the Army and those that have already achieved a grade from the selection process.
 
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The_IRON is on about the whole process including ADSC. Your IDST score is worked out from your performance in all aspects of ADSC. There are no exams to take but you will do the BARB and TST. The RAP, awaiting alloocations list etc are all beyond your control. These are lists of the number of people required for each trade in the Army and those that have already achieved a grade from the selection process.
Thank God for that somebody understands me :p and theres NO such thing as ADSC anymore old timer (Army Development & Selection Centre formerly known as RSC (Recruit Selection Centre) or in your time you enlisted ( Caveman Training School) , its AC (Assessment Centre)
 
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My nipper has just turned 17 and has got to the stage of his life where he needs to decide what he's gonna do. He's doing A Levels at college in maths, music and music tech (he's also done an AS in physics) and has thought about a career in forces music. However after a week with an army band and a day at RM Pompey he's decided that it's not for him. He has now decided that as he's "shit-hot at maths", which he is, a career as an army engineer is the way to go. His first choice is Air Tech then Av Tech, anything that will keep challenging his brain on a daily basis. He also likes the idea of potentially becoming a lance jack out of P2 training! Any advice on either/ both would be appreciated.
 

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