How Good is Indias Military ?

#2
NEO_CON said:
I seem to run across stories like these from time to time.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20060615.aspx

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20060616.aspx

The quality of the Chinese I know is improving any opinions on the Indian Military ?
Very competent, lots of 'em, well-equipped, good commanders. Did OK in their last few outings and lots of current experience from IS internally and COIN in Kashmir. Didn't do terribly well in Sri Lanka in a very difficult role.

Plus their drill is very familiar and they've preserved pretty well all the old Raj traditions. Good guys.
 
#3
Large numbers of Ghurkas and Sikh troops, neither of which I'd particularly care to tangle with. Equipment a mixed bag, some very modern kit but lots of obsolete stuff too. Procurement suffers from trying to build things locally when it would be cheaper and quicker just to import kit.
 
#4
AndyPipkin said:
Large numbers of Ghurkas and Sikh troops, neither of which I'd particularly care to tangle with. Equipment a mixed bag, some very modern kit but lots of obsolete stuff too. Procurement suffers from trying to build things locally when it would be cheaper and quicker just to import kit.
HMM sounds familiar :p
 
#8
AndyPipkin said:
Procurement suffers from trying to build things locally when it would be cheaper and quicker just to import kit.
hmmmm ............ that sounds familiar. (sa80, for just one example?)
 
#9
jonwilly said:
I was told that India has more Gurkhas then Brit army has Infantry.
john
Admittedly by a ex Gurkha officer over a drink.
These days they would for sure. I've heard numbers ranging from 20-40 000.
 
#10
TomW said:
jonwilly said:
I was told that India has more Gurkhas then Brit army has Infantry.
john
Admittedly by a ex Gurkha officer over a drink.
These days they would for sure. I've heard numbers ranging from 20-40 000.
True - not just the unamalgamated share of the Gurkha regiments they took at Independence, but many short hard blokes from Nepal in the Assam Rifles and other units. Probably in excess of 30,000 in all.
 
#12
They buy a helluva lot of obsolete kit from us. It's still very effective in the roles they have to play. Many of their officers also do the JDSC course.
 
#13



with our carrier Invincable (is it that one or one of the other two?) being retired & all the Sea Harriers going from the FAA now too, are these going to be bought by India as a job lot I wonder? for sale, Invincable class Aircraft Carrier, with air wing, one careful owner (despite what the argies could throw at us) ...............
 
#14
AndyPipkin said:
Large numbers of Ghurkas and Sikh troops, neither of which I'd particularly care to tangle with. Equipment a mixed bag, some very modern kit but lots of obsolete stuff too. Procurement suffers from trying to build things locally when it would be cheaper and quicker just to import kit.

I believe the reason they try to produce their own equipment, is down to the fact that the west refused to supply them with gear for a while after their nuclear ambitions became clear in the 60's - 70's ?

The same happened to Pakistan recently so now they tend to make their own stuff.

A lot of their equipment would be high quality, dont think they are in the business of creating low quality equipment, after all both their militaries and military traditions are held with much more respect than most of the rest of the World.
 
#15
press_it said:



with our carrier Invincable (is it that one or one of the other two?) being retired & all the Sea Harriers going from the FAA now too, are these going to be bought by India as a job lot I wonder? for sale, Invincable class Aircraft Carrier, with air wing, one careful owner (despite what the argies could throw at us) ...............
Which gives me a great idea ......

Much as we love the Falkland Islands, we could probably do worse that subcontract its defence to India, rather like the banks do with call centres.

They have the carrier, the SEA HARRIERs and the Gurkhas. It would probably save us a fortune! And if that miserable oik Brown can do it under PFI, it won't even show up on the balance sheet.

I shall expect to see this announced as Government policy shortly, with a knighthood in the post to me for coming up with the idea.
 
#16
I seem to recall hearing a few years ago that the Indian Governemt bought the world's largest aircraft carrier from the Russians and have upgraded it with lots of shiny kit and other assorted bells and whistles. It has been referred to already, but I understand that quite a number of Indian-born Nepalese serve in non-Gurkha regiments. I would say that when one considers its size, its traditons, its proven historical effectivensss, and its considerable warfighting experience at various levels of intensity, the Indian military has to be classed as a formidable fighting force.

Rayc is formerly of the Indian Army, is he not? I'd be interested to hear his views on this.
 
#17
smoojalooge said:
was talking to a gurkha on guard about this he said there are far more i think he said in the region of 30000 in the indian army
Higher than that.

Major General (Retd) Ashok K Mehta, who himself served in the Gurkha Rifles, had this to say on the number of Gurkha’s in the Indian Army back in 2001:

Fifty-one Gurkha battalions fought in World War II under the British. Today they are down to two battalions. But in India, they number 40,000 in 38 battalions.
 
#19
Livin_on_a_prayer said:
Whats the relationship between India and China, would they side with us in a war?
The Indian government would do what it saw as being in its national interest, the same as every other government in the world.
 
#20
India had a border war with China in the 1960s ('62?) and there were no official relations for quite some time. However, now they are in the middle of a joint construction project that would see a proper overland trading/transport route develop between the two countries.

I understand that with America and Pakistan cosying up together during the Cold War, India, though mainly vying for international independence, looked to the Sino-Russian area as a counter balance.

I don't think it's relevant today though.
 

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