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Just trying to save weight a space in my bergan, and trying to find out if its worth investing in a softie 6? Most of my training is in Sunnybridge so may switch back to the issued bag during the winter if its not warm enough.
yeah, i saw the new sleeping bags in the KiT Mag as well. We won't be getting them for quite a while and was after a personal sleeping bag as well. What was the weather like when it was too cold? I could always just wear a layer or two when inside it. Do you have a better alternative?
I have this particular model of bag and can echo that it is quite small. I think you can by expanding panels for them however. I personally find it to be plenty warm enough for field use taking into account its compressed size and weight. I'm in NZ though so climate here is pretty different to yours, in saying that though I have used it at high altitude in the central North island with little trouble.
I used one this weekend...roasting! but I was in RAF accomodation where we get individual rooms with the heaters turned up!!
Seriously though, I would only use it in "British Summertime" as its not that warm. Rated to -5, I would say thats if you are a bit of a blubber merchent with your own insulation. If a racing snake, then you will freeze! +5 is more realistic.
Adding a bivvie bag helps keep windchill down and a good termal mat helps, as does cuddling up naked with your buddy. You need the expanda panel for that though.
Good points - It's very well made, the materials are top quality, it compresses much smaller than the issue bouncing bomb and weighs a lot less.
Bad points - It's not warm enough, the zip snags.
I can't say I've had any issues with the size. I'm 6'2" and I don't find it too small, having said that I'm not a fat **** so couldn't comment on width.
I wrote a full review on Kit Reviews but it doesn't seem to have made it across to the new site.
From April to October it's OK, but you won't be happy if you plan to use it in winter or the colder days of spring and autumn, even with a bivvy bag. To me this is not really acceptable when it has an advertised comfort rating of -7c.
Go for the 4 season version instead and get it from This Tribe because they always have deals on. I got mine for over £60 less than the RRP on the Snugpak website.
If we accept that most military bags are just cheap rubbish, very large in pack size and very heavy then it makes choosing a civvy bag much easier lol
My sleeping bags can get wet so I stick with man made insulation. This pic is of my favourite Vango bag which although years old is still perfectly good to be used down to zero. Although I generally use it in a tent, a bivvy bag would make it just as warm. This bag is navy blue in colour.....but is magically cammo when inside an issue bivvy bag
Here you go, my bag and an inflatable pillow in its compression sack. The bag weights 850 grammes. Oh, and I'm the proud owner of one of the original green '58 mugs (little bit smaller than the black mugs) and is shown for scale
Their TROPEN bag looks nice. A good size and low weight.
Would be good in the UK if used with a bivvy bag, but it doesn't have a shoulder baffle so could 'vent' out heat in windy conditions. The main zip baffle isn't too large either so may snag.
If you're happy to spend the cash, Rab have several ranges of both natural down and artificial insulation. The Ascent 900 is about £200 but it's rated down to -40 C survival, light as ****, and packs down to nothing. It's spacious, hard-wearing, and gen like sleeping in a cloud.
Sorry, I don't understand that.
I did point out the 900 will cope with the OP's request, but do also understand that troops operate in temps much much lower than minus 11 where the 900 would be totally out of its depth
Of course when the temps are very low a wise person would also ditch the issue roll mat for something a bit better