How do you [servicemen & women] do it?

#1
Hi, I'm posting this here under the 'analysis' part of the index.

I really want to join the Army as an officer and cannot wait to do so, providing they have me. I think it is one of the best jobs going, the adventure, the travel, experiences, security, lack of comfort-zone, humour, etc.

I know we all join because it's what we wanted to do, it was our personal decision, but something gets to me, I can't quite put my finger on it and I don't think I have quite "got it".

It's society. Although most non-student, hippy sandalistas out there regard the Forces 'reasonably' well, i.e. when you say I'm in the RAF/ARMY/RM etc, it generally invokes respect and you have a kind of 'tag', a good tag in my view, of being someone who is stoic, strong in the face of adversity, stiff upper lip, etc, you know, militarised. You all know what your civvy associates think of you.

But is it enough? Most people in civvy street and greedy, selfish, interested in money above all else and they adorn themselves in luxuries, comforts, and other materialistic lifestyle habbits that ensure they preserve their own personal happiness. Their loyalties to our country, history, institutions is skin deep and they would sacrifice nothing for it (unlike you).

I read in the Mail the other day, and in the View column it was talking about unscrupulous officers, and said "military officers, largely forgotten today in the non-military world..." and that also makes me said. The diminishing prestige of service.

How do you do it? How do you execute your duty the way you do, knowing a lot of people back home, young, old, men, women, rich, poor, wouldn't buy a big issue off a starving begger in the street if it cost them a £1.

I hope I have made myself reasonably clear..
 

Fugly

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#5
TheKing said:
Hi, I'm posting this here under the 'analysis' part of the index.
:roll:

If that is your interpretation, are you going to give us details of your bowel functions in the "Regular" forum?
 
#6
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Firstly, stop reading the bloody Daily Mail - the fanzine for all facist middle English - look down your nose - we do nothing wrong- do gooders who are actually doggers.

Ahem, now thats off my chest...

Sometimes, whilst in uniform, I get my hand shaken in the street by a random passer by, other times, when not in uniform and someone asks me what I do, they respond with 'Oh'.

Squaddies do it for a number of reasons, it could be because they've nothing else or they love it or they're not sure why, but they're content with where they're at. Whatever reason a squaddie is a squaddie, it doesn't matter what Joe Public thinks of him, because he's got his muckers and he's got a camarederie that could never be understood by outsiders, or by those doing an 'analysis'
 
#7
sarge_massage_my_passage said:
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Firstly, stop reading the bloody Daily Mail - the fanzine for all facist middle English - look down your nose - we do nothing wrong- do gooders who are actually doggers.

Ahem, now thats off my chest...

Sometimes, whilst in uniform, I get my hand shaken in the street by a random passer by, other times, when not in uniform and someone asks me what I do, they respond with 'Oh'.

Squaddies do it for a number of reasons, it could be because they've nothing else or they love it or they're not sure why, but they're content with where they're at. Whatever reason a squaddie is a squaddie, it doesn't matter what Joe Public thinks of him, because he's got his muckers and he's got a camarederie that could never be understood by outsiders, or by those doing an 'analysis'
Yes I get that, that's why I said we all join for our own personal circumstances, decisions, etc - I didn't think, "I'm joining to protect the City fatcats and all the nasty people as well as the goodies"
 
#8
People do it for all sorts of different reasons and there are a few threads on here that cover it (do a search or some smart ARRSEr might provide a link for you).

I know a bloke who joined up as a summer job so that he had some cash in his pocket prior to Uni. He's still serving and a WO2 now.
 
#9
TheKing said:
I don't think I have quite "got it".
You haven't got it so don't join the Army.

Try becoming a PCSO, that'll be right up your street.
 
#10
dingerr said:
He's still serving and a WO2 now.
Is he an AT? Get his 5 year bonus next year does he? :twisted:
 
#12
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Too be honest, I'm not jealous mate, you lot do a great job

You can keep the lonely walk to that dodgy looking mould at the side of the dusty road
 
#15
Try
Duty, Loyalty, Discipline, giving not taking and no Thank You for doing what Your Country Orders and Your Sovereign Demands.
john
Most of us got used to it and still believe in these unfashionable ideals.
 
#16
jonwilly said:
Try
Duty, Loyalty, Discipline, giving not taking and no Thank You for doing what Your Country Orders and Your Sovereign Demands.
john
Most of us got used to it and still believe in these unfashionable ideals.

...and of course to kill people without getting into (too much) trouble.

CW

Quis Separabit
 
#17
CaptainWillard said:
jonwilly said:
Try
Duty, Loyalty, Discipline, giving not taking and no Thank You for doing what Your Country Orders and Your Sovereign Demands.
john
Most of us got used to it and still believe in these unfashionable ideals.

...and of course to kill people without getting into (too much) trouble.

CW

Quis Separabit
...And may I add, we get to fire bigger and better guns than the Police. Or anyone else for that matter. :wink:

I joined because my family have been sending Sons to the armed forces for generations, so I naturally followed suit.

I have loved it and hated it all the way through. You won't meet any better or closer friends than in the service. You know, the ones that are giving you fire support one month and then mine sweeping your beer the next. :twisted:
 
#18
The reason we do it......
Unsurprisingly this is a pretty regular discussion. I've had it with everyone from girlfriends to forces mates to civvis. There are probably as many reasons for joining up as there are people in the forces. For God, Queen and country is very rarely one of them though.

In my case I had a misspent youth reading Commando comics - never did I get to bayonet a boxhead while shouting, "Take that you hun," but I still enjoyed my time and that's what counts.

Chally
 
#19
Not many 120mm bayonets kicking about though mate. Fife, you poor sod. When you feel like you are about to end it all, jump on a bus to Cowdenbeath or Lochgelly, your morale will shoot through the roof. :wink:
 
#20
I did it because I was in a Northwest Town that had been destroyed by Maggie, with Few qualifications and a stark choice between the Rock and Roll and going to college.

Getting a wage, getting away and getting a career was a total no brainer.

That is why I did it. I continue for (near) 24 years because of the values I was given once I had.

Lets not forget it is a blast (a lot of the time) too.
 

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