How do these people do these things?

#4
"…The judge said Rennie, a trained teacher who was found guilty of 14 charges, was at the heart of the conspiracy to abuse youngsters, and likened him to a spider weaving an electronic web to bring about his crime.…"


Nice to see the CRB checks on teachers work then. 8O
 
#5
Oil_Slick said:
"…The judge said Rennie, a trained teacher who was found guilty of 14 charges, was at the heart of the conspiracy to abuse youngsters, and likened him to a spider weaving an electronic web to bring about his crime.…"


Nice to see the CRB checks on teachers work then. 8O
And can somebody tell me how the fcuk the ISA checks will stop this happening if the CRB checks didn't?
 
#6
Bazzinho1977 said:
Oil_Slick said:
"…The judge said Rennie, a trained teacher who was found guilty of 14 charges, was at the heart of the conspiracy to abuse youngsters, and likened him to a spider weaving an electronic web to bring about his crime.…"


Nice to see the CRB checks on teachers work then. 8O
And can somebody tell me how the fcuk the ISA checks will stop this happening if the CRB checks didn't?


DING! DING!!!!


We have a winner!
 

Biped

LE
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#8
Strachan, who is HIV positive, has already served a three-year prison sentence in 1997 for abusing a boy. Rennie was the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, which offers advice to young gay and lesbian people.
That's nice then.
 
#9
Biped said:
Strachan, who is HIV positive, has already served a three-year prison sentence in 1997 for abusing a boy. Rennie was the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, which offers advice to young gay and lesbian people.
That's nice then.

LIke I said, the CRB checks worked well, didn't they.
 

old_fat_and_hairy

LE
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#10
Bazzinho1977 said:
Oil_Slick said:
"…The judge said Rennie, a trained teacher who was found guilty of 14 charges, was at the heart of the conspiracy to abuse youngsters, and likened him to a spider weaving an electronic web to bring about his crime.…"


Nice to see the CRB checks on teachers work then. 8O
And can somebody tell me how the fcuk the ISA checks will stop this happening if the CRB checks didn't?
Of course, unless caught and convicted of an offence, then nothing will be recorded on Criminal records. And since police no longer have 'collators' who knew everything about everyone, then nothing will catch these perverts out until they slip up.
You may note that the big headlines recently about peadophiles, including the very lovely Mrs George, showed that none of those caught had ever showed up on the suspicion radar at all.

How can a CRB check detect someone who has never come to the attention of Criminal Records?
 
#12
should be put on the ranges for woody to use as target practice a long slow lingering death from starvation is what they deserve :twisted:
 
#13
I think that we have come to the point where a government 'referral' department is made where judges can send sick bastards ,like these, and never for them to be seen again.
 
#14
old_fat_and_hairy said:
How can a CRB check detect someone who has never come to the attention of Criminal Records?

Double Life Of Scotland's 'Worst' Paedophiles
6:03pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
The two ringleaders of Scotland's biggest paedophile network led sordid double lives.


Ringleaders James Rennie and Neil Strachan had respectable jobs
On the surface, Neil Strachan and James Rennie held down good jobs and were trusted members of the community.
But the pair, both from Edinburgh, had a shared interest in young boys and had collected some of the worst child abuse images ever seen by police experts.
They were also responsible for the abuse of very young children - one as young as three months old.
Strachan, 41, also hid a dark past, in which he was jailed for three years for molesting a young boy.

Sick gang traded in porn
Rennie, 38, was the successful chief executive ofLGBT Youth Scotland, an organisation dedicated to helping young gay people.
A former secondary school teacher, he regularly spoke out in public on gay issues, particularly how they affected young people.
But the High Court in Edinburgh heard he was "polluted by deviant compulsion".
Crown QC Dorothy Bain said: "In reality he is someone who allowed his profound interest in the sexual abuse of children to engulf his entire life."
The extent of his obsession with under-age sex unfolded as the 10-week trial progressed.
He was charged and ultimately convicted of molesting a child over a number of years, starting at the age of three months.
And in an online conversation with another accused, he even expressed a wish to see children with Down's Syndrome or a learning disability sexually abused.
Operation Algebra officers found that Rennie had links with paedophiles in the US and the Netherlands.

Gang preyed on youngsters
Rennie was traced and arrested by police at the end of 2007.
He was suspended from his high-profile post and by February 2008 had resigned.
Strachan was the man who sparked Operation Algebra when indecent images were found on computer equipment used by him in his work.
Tests revealed "sinister" emails between him and Rennie.
They had encountered each other online in 2004 when Strachan congratulated Rennie on the content of his web page on a site known to have been misused by paedophiles.
When the case came to trial, what the jury did not know was that Strachan had offended before.
He was jailed for three years in 1997 for repeatedly molesting a young boy while he was an official at a youth football club.
He started abusing the child when he was five years old and the abuse went on for two years.
Strachan quit his post as secretary of Celtic East Boys Club in Edinburgh after he was caught.
When he was jailed, it emerged that he had also been convicted of a similar sex offence 12 years previously.
Among the charges faced by Strachan in the current trial was an allegation that he committed a serious sexual offence against a toddler at New Year from 2005 into 2006.
But Strachan, despite being one of the worst offenders in the group, was the only one of the eight men on trial who denied every charge against him.
Prosecutors were forced to piece together the case against him bit by bit.
Crucial to their case was a photograph partially showing a man sexually assaulting a young child.
The Crown called on a world-renowned expert in human anatomy to examine the picture, known in court as The Hogmanay Image.
Pinpointing the abuser's physical traits, including a distinctive thumbnail, Professor Susan Black said there was "strong evidence" that Strachan and the man in the picture were the same person.
 

old_fat_and_hairy

LE
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Reviews Editor
#16
Oil_Slick said:
old_fat_and_hairy said:
How can a CRB check detect someone who has never come to the attention of Criminal Records?

Double Life Of Scotland's 'Worst' Paedophiles
6:03pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
The two ringleaders of Scotland's biggest paedophile network led sordid double lives.


Ringleaders James Rennie and Neil Strachan had respectable jobs
On the surface, Neil Strachan and James Rennie held down good jobs and were trusted members of the community.
But the pair, both from Edinburgh, had a shared interest in young boys and had collected some of the worst child abuse images ever seen by police experts.
They were also responsible for the abuse of very young children - one as young as three months old.
Strachan, 41, also hid a dark past, in which he was jailed for three years for molesting a young boy.

Sick gang traded in porn
Rennie, 38, was the successful chief executive ofLGBT Youth Scotland, an organisation dedicated to helping young gay people.
A former secondary school teacher, he regularly spoke out in public on gay issues, particularly how they affected young people.
But the High Court in Edinburgh heard he was "polluted by deviant compulsion".
Crown QC Dorothy Bain said: "In reality he is someone who allowed his profound interest in the sexual abuse of children to engulf his entire life."
The extent of his obsession with under-age sex unfolded as the 10-week trial progressed.
He was charged and ultimately convicted of molesting a child over a number of years, starting at the age of three months.
And in an online conversation with another accused, he even expressed a wish to see children with Down's Syndrome or a learning disability sexually abused.
Operation Algebra officers found that Rennie had links with paedophiles in the US and the Netherlands.

Gang preyed on youngsters
Rennie was traced and arrested by police at the end of 2007.
He was suspended from his high-profile post and by February 2008 had resigned.
Strachan was the man who sparked Operation Algebra when indecent images were found on computer equipment used by him in his work.
Tests revealed "sinister" emails between him and Rennie.
They had encountered each other online in 2004 when Strachan congratulated Rennie on the content of his web page on a site known to have been misused by paedophiles.
When the case came to trial, what the jury did not know was that Strachan had offended before.
He was jailed for three years in 1997 for repeatedly molesting a young boy while he was an official at a youth football club.
He started abusing the child when he was five years old and the abuse went on for two years.
Strachan quit his post as secretary of Celtic East Boys Club in Edinburgh after he was caught.
When he was jailed, it emerged that he had also been convicted of a similar sex offence 12 years previously.
Among the charges faced by Strachan in the current trial was an allegation that he committed a serious sexual offence against a toddler at New Year from 2005 into 2006.
But Strachan, despite being one of the worst offenders in the group, was the only one of the eight men on trial who denied every charge against him.
Prosecutors were forced to piece together the case against him bit by bit.
Crucial to their case was a photograph partially showing a man sexually assaulting a young child.
The Crown called on a world-renowned expert in human anatomy to examine the picture, known in court as The Hogmanay Image.
Pinpointing the abuser's physical traits, including a distinctive thumbnail, Professor Susan Black said there was "strong evidence" that Strachan and the man in the picture were the same person.
A total failure of the way in which these matters are recorded and kept. This should have been identified and dealt with.

But, in the cases recently, none had ever been arrested or convicted.

I'm no fan of the way things are done now, having served in police in the days before Pc got in the way, and a divisional collator was worth my weight in gold. We had the PNC, but that only recorded convictions. The collator took info from every bobby, including stop checks, suspicions and local gossip. It helped build up a picture, and one could go to him and ask 'what is known?' and get a full run down. It may not have been perfect, but it helped a great deal.

Data protection put an end to that procedure, and now the reliance on computers is paramount. However, they are far from infallible, as you demonstrate.
 
#18
old_fat_and_hairy said:
A total failure of the way in which these matters are recorded and kept. This should have been identified and dealt with.

But, in the cases recently, none had ever been arrested or convicted.

I'm no fan of the way things are done now, having served in police in the days before Pc got in the way, and a divisional collator was worth my weight in gold. We had the PNC, but that only recorded convictions. The collator took info from every bobby, including stop checks, suspicions and local gossip. It helped build up a picture, and one could go to him and ask 'what is known?' and get a full run down. It may not have been perfect, but it helped a great deal.

Data protection put an end to that procedure, and now the reliance on computers is paramount. However, they are far from infallible, as you demonstrate.

My point exactly… CRB checks seem to be incapable of catching or weeding out the nonces who move about, but make sure I can never work near kids because I used to get in the occasional bar fight in my teens over 30 years ago.
 
#19
It is a very twisted reality these people live in and usually they are addicted to just about every aspect of it,the secrecy,the "special" nature of belonging to the network,the opportunity to abuse not just children,but societies most treasured members.etc,etc.It is very difficult to undermine such strong beliefs and positively affect such strong stimuli. The best solution for all concerned is to take them to a quiet place (such as Stamford B.A.) and put two 9m.m. rounds through their heads.Job done.
 
#20
Words just utterly fail me , for a change. A 3 month old?! An 18 month old? What kind of sick, twisted, perverted, demented, ...ed up set of people ARE these!?

There is absolutely no punishment or torture great enough to compare to the damage these kind of people are capable of....none. And I think I can be pretty inventive when it comes to thinking of painful, razor-blade slow-slicing of the body...
 

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