House Prices

Discussion in 'Finance, Property, Law' started by Archibald, May 26, 2013.

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  1. Good Evening

    Any predictions for house prices this year - Will Gideon`s give a ways with Help to buy and the new scheme in Jan 2014 make any difference

    I have looked at some new builds locally and at both the sales persons hinted that they were open to offers i.e a discount in the region of 5% which is unusual if they have had a good take up with Help To Buy

  2. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    if you look at a new build then give the walls a good kick as there's bugger all to them now rooms are too small and the garages aren't big enough for cars going by recent press articles. so take a tape measure to make sure they aren't messing with your head as show houses often use smaller furniture to make rooms look bigger. ceilings to my upstairs is 5 inches shorter than downstairs so I had to get wardrobes custom made to fit in.

    predictions are up and down as they need to drop another 20% but osborne is dicking with the system with his guarantee scheme and might make them go up even further.

    politicians are in the view that property bubbles make people feel better as they get further into debt.
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  3. i read that the new gov scheme is pushing prices up, They will always go up, they may dip sometimes but always recover, my gaff has almost trebled to £200.000 since 1998.
    The sad fact is the prices still put of 1st time buyers.
    Because of the market and people needing money there is always room to negotiate.

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  4. Fundamentally it's a case of simple economics: in the medium to long term, as long as demand exceeds supply, prices will remain high and tend to rise. [with apologies to Keynes]
  5. Completely agree. Property prices have doubled every 8-12 years for past 100 years. Main reasons supply and demand, plus keynsian inflation (property is a store of value and a commodity) and capitalist economics based around a fiat currency (money not linked to gold standard - ie notional/valueless). All of this puts any commodity in a good position. Also look to silver. It will go. great sites to read and

    We are in a strange age at the moment and there is still a big risk of further banking issues (euro, dollar both on sticky wickets - yes I did say dollar - it was about to crash, they caught bin laden and then the euro went pear shaped - US banks heavily exposed to euro and don't china know it).

    My predication stagnant this year until near the end when people get excited about new govt assistance in buying. Then could go up and up (risk of sub-bubble) or could correct very slightly as everyone realises govt initiative not as good as hoped (deja vu). In reality small increases next three years, then boom some time in year 4, then back into the cycle.

    The good thing for property is that people will have learned from previous mistakes ;)
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  7. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    the latest is that downsizing babyboomers freeing capital to go on cruises will be fighting with young first timers and buy to letters for limited 2 bed properties.

    we will have to go back to buying run down houses to do up which is no bad thing but the kids have to learn to beg and borrow stuff rather than just splash on the credit card for the perfect instant pad.
  8. ******* baby boomers, trying to get my self sorted with a house, in the estate agents and there was a couple downsizing, and buying two properties one for them and the other they were going to rent, so I eavesdropped the agent said that first time buyers could rent at 400-500, the greedy ******* wanted 600 pcm, on a 2 bedroom flat.

    That would price me out of the market.

    I honestly would not mind renting of a professional landlord, but off a greedy couple. When they left I mentioned to the agent and he said that a lot of babyboomers were doing it. He offered me a studio flat in a rough area of town, completely refused.

    Homes under the hammer has something to answer for, as wealthy couples making 12k a house purchase and overpricing the market.

    Anyhoo found somewhere just need to speak to the estate agent tommorrow.
  9. Oh and dont get me started on flats and bungalows at low prices quiet areas only to find they are over 55 only residential areas, bastards,
  10. I'm in the process of selling up my flat and the missus her house, Her house went on the market on Friday had 3 viewers yesterday and as described mix of baby boomer and first time buyer.

    Tip to the OP have a look on the estate agents web-sites and see if there are any reposessions normally go under the market value and might only be a few years old as well
  11. US seems to be picking up slowly, house prices have risen for the last couple of quarters. Economically the rise should knock on to the UK improving bank confidence etc, etc, resulting in a gradual increased upturn increasing prices.

    New houses put profit into a buiders pocket, a bit like a new car loses value as soon as you drive it off the forecourt. You will get more value for you money with a slightly older property.
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  12. Wordsmith

    Wordsmith LE Book Reviewer

    What happens to house prices depends on how sensible the government is. Historically house prices have been 3.7 - 3.8 times average earnings. There is a good reason for that - building societies traditionally lend 3.5 x a couple's combined salary. Add in the deposit and there's your 3.7 - 3.8 times average earnings ratio.

    It just takes an incompetent moron as Chancellor (Gordon Brown being the latest example) to relax those rules and house price inflation goes bat-shit. Anyone remember mortgages of 5x earnings or 125% mortgages on his watch?

    House prices are still 4.3 x average earnings, so a correction process is still going on. Instead of house prices falling, they now seem to be marking time while average wages slowly increase.

    There's a lot of decent information on this site: House price news, information and discussion -

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  13. Where are you looking? What's your budget?
  14. Goatman

    Goatman LE Book Reviewer

    HMMM...thought of starting a new thread but sort of related in that it hinges on property prices:



  15. Hertfordshire, Northamptonshire 95k, thats the highest mortgage at 0% deposit that I can get.