House cleared when away on a training weekend

#1
I had to call the police to remove some people that had been staying at my house as a favour. They had long out stayed their welcome & were 7 weeks behind in the agreed monies they were paying.

Anyway when they were removed they gave the key up for the front door, the only one they should have had, it turns out they had another copy and when I was away on Saturday I recieved a text saying

"Just thought I would let you know I have been in & removed all my belongings and will send some friends around for anything I have missed"

I was on the range at the time & told my CSM who loaded me straight in a mini bus and drove me home, whilst I was on the phone to the police to get them round to my address.

It turns out they had missed them & they had handed the key in at the police station when they had finished in an attempt to be all innocent.

I have a a text stating he could come around on the thursday to collect his belongings.

In addition to this they have also stolen my personal belongings including my video camera with my daughters birth on it, my spare car keys, the back door keys (I now cant get out into the back garden) as well as numerous other items, even opening a bottle of Champagne I had hidden from them which was a gift from my wedding in 2002 and also opening my daughters xmas present from 2006 that I have not been able to give to her as her mother returned it.

The Police have informed me today they have no intentions of taking any action and it is a civil matter and I will need to take them to court to my belongings back, I did manage to find where my belongings were being stored but the Police managed to tip them off and they moved my stuff before I had the chance to go & get it.

In my eyes they have not only trespassed they have gained unlawful entry & also stolen my property which they have been boasting about.
Any ideas on what to do would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
 
#2
"I did manage to find where my belongings were being stored but the Police managed to tip them off and they moved my stuff before I had the chance to go & get it."

I'm sorry I can't answer your questions but why would the police tip them off ?
 
#3
It turns out the guy who owns the house where the property was stored is a friend of a friend, this is how I found out it was there.
I gave the police his number and they also wanted the numbers for the two individuals involved. They rang the wrong number & they spoke to his now ex-girlfriend who is friends with the thieves and whilst he was at work during the day she let them in and they piled all my stuff in their car.
By the time I got there they were long gone and the only stuff of theirs left was clothes so no value to me.
 
#4
Surely entering a house and stealing your kit is theft, and therefore a matter for the police?
 
#5
This has GOT to be a wind-up! Nobody could be that fückin' stupid surely.

MsG
 
#6
smudge67 said:
Surely entering a house and stealing your kit is theft, and therefore a matter for the police?
im no expert but it may be a civil matter as they had keys to get in and didnt brake in, bit like squatters.
But they did steal stuff so dunno for sure.
 
#7
You let a band of pikeys live in your house for seven weeks rent-free? Has this website taught you nothing? ;)

Keep complaining to the police; if the local superintendent and the local DI keep having to hire skips to get rid of your letters they might consider getting someone to do something about it.

Failing that, go for the DIY option. You have a phone number and names, an address of some associates; track them down and have a word.

Alabama Lie Detector: £17.99 from JJB Sports Aim away from face :twisted:
 
#8
I promise you no wind up, I am f@ucking livid, not so much about the shitty things they have stolen like hair clippers and electric razor not even the Sky + remote, thats just annoying, but my video camera locked in my house, also locked in my bedroom and opening my daughters present even though they knew exactly what it was and why it was there
 
#9
kez89 said:
smudge67 said:
Surely entering a house and stealing your kit is theft, and therefore a matter for the police?
im no expert but it may be a civil matter as they had keys to get in and didnt brake in, bit like squatters.
But they did steal stuff so dunno for sure.
I tried to talk to a solictor as soon as the police fobbed me off this afternoon. I will try again tomorrow. Regarding where they live they currently are of no fixed abode so this is going to complicate things slightly.

The police dont even seem to concerned with his little container of CS tablets or the fact he is driving his car around unisured.
 
#10
Bit late for this advice but....

You need better quality friends. If they weren't people you would class as 'friends' what were you thinking giving them the keys to your pad?
 
#11
Nice friends you have. Well done, the police.

Personally, with the way the system is, I think you are screwed.

Good luck at court (where I dare saw you will hit legal fees, endless fcuk arounds and you where you might get a decision sometime in the next 5 years).

If you get any of your stuff back I'll be amazed.

BTW, don't think the b@stards are finished with you either. Change the locks now.
 
#12
They have been here for a while, he is ex-army, we do the same sort of job, got on well etc etc. I was doing them a favour.
What can I say hind sight is a wonderful thing.
It was never meant to be a long term thing
 
#13
Im off to Afghan in July cant think of a better alibi for what ever happens whilst I am away.
Locks are changed now, also changing my car to prevent any vandilism and as I was moving into temprary accomadation before I departed I am now rushing that up a bit now as well
 
#14
Put this one down to experience mate. Unless you can prove they entered and unlawfully stole your gear (credible independent witnesses for example) you have not a hope in hell. Clearly forensics is a waste of time as they previously had legitimate access. Unless you can prove they entered unlawfully, and took your gear, and someone is willing to provide a statement and attend court, you are pi$$ing in the wind.

I will qualify the above by saying you have given only very scant details, so any advice you get back (including mine) may well be misinformed and inaccurate

I fear you are at the zenith of your learning curve.
 
#15
The only good witness from my point of view is the boyfriend who heard them bragging about stuff they had taken. I didnt even realise my video camera was taken till he mentioned a wallet they had stolen, I then realised that may camera was in the same drawer & sure enough when I got home it was gone.
Also the fact that two police officers had to remove them from the property only 6 days earlier and taken the key off them in the process. I thought this would go in my favour.
 
#17
The_Rattler said:
can you not say they must have copied a key therefore theft by deception
I will try that with the solicitor I talk to tomorrow, I just cant beleive the attitude of the police, takes the biscuit. They just arent interested
 
#18
The_Rattler said:
can you not say they must have copied a key therefore theft by deception
Not being funny mate, but no deception has taken place, all you are doing is confusing the issue.

With regards to the police attendance. You will need to contact them and estalish why they were there (was it to prevent a Breach of the Peace?) Did you inform these people that they were henceforth prohibited from entering your premises? Were they there purely as 'friends' or as lodgers? If so, you are entering a civil law minefield where the only winners are lawyers. If, and only if, you can prove that they were in your house after permission for them to be there had been withdrawn, you may have grounds to report this as a burglary. If they were there legitimately but your stuff went, then you could report a theft dwelling. Home Office rules state that if you believe a crime has taken place and the police cannot prove otherwise, then they must accept your allegation and investigate it.

That, however,is a million miles from proving it.

Sorry if this pi$$es on your chips mate, but I thought you would prefer the hard truth.
 
#19
I suppose the police in some cases are just defeated, its not worth the hassle to them and they just believe we should use are house insurance (just get a crime number from plod) or worst of all they just cannot be bothered and leave it up to the civil courts. Either way its an up hill struggle.

Sorry to hear about it, I would like to think a friend i worked with (in the job or not) would have the minerals to be a decent bloke. ( I house sat for a bloke albeit for two weeks in the USA when he went to Mexico on holiday) I was actually concerned in that if some one robbed his house, as the owner a nice guy and all that had an open door policy even to the point if he locked himself out there were keys everywhere outside. (well the werent when i was house sitting
 
#20
Cheers for the replys, some goods points to take on board, I would have thought that having Police drag them out of the house and take the one and only key they were supposed to have and then later informed of a day and time they could return to collect them belongings would help towards this some how.
Fingers crossed I can get it sorted the right way with out too much expense
 

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