Honour Guard query

chrisg46

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#1
I have been charged with organising the Honour Guard for my mates coming wedding in the summer. Between them, they have decided that they want the guard to consist of around 8 pers, with rifles. This is not an issue, i know what needs to be done for this (letter to CO to get permission, letter to police etc to advise). The TAC is about 150 metres down the road from the church so that works out nicely, just need to get someone to open the armoury to take the rifles out then back in again.

However...

The bride is due to arrive via Horse and carriage, and has had the idea of having the guard march alongside as an escort stylee type thing. So i am now wondering if anything needs doing regarding having what might constitute a small parade marching down the road next to a horse and carriage.
As mentioned the church is just down the road from the TAC, and it is not a through road as such, as it is a bus route, so negligible number of cars to go up and down. However, it is one of the principal bus routes going in and out of town, of the proverbial "wait for ages for a bus, then half a dozen come along at once" variety. If the escort occurs during one of these gaps there will be no problems, but....

At most, the disruption would probably only last a couple of minutes, and i think be hardly noticed. However, are there any hoops i need to jump through to make this happen withoput anyone getting arrested/fined etc?
 
#4
Compromise and get the bride to have a couple of the guard at the entrance of the church.
 
#6
polar69 said:
The bride wants her own parade ?

Not even funerals get an honour guard down the street

Kick it into touch, its a stupid idea
It's her big day, she can have what she likes.

msr
 

chrisg46

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#7
The bride is a bit of alright, but she is an only child. And is very faithful.

And my view is similar to MSR's. If it was down a busy main road for ahlf a mile then indeed would be a bit silly, but i dont see this one being a major issue (its no more than 150m). i just dont know if permission needs obtaining.
 
#8
MightyBigEgo said:
Compromise and get the bride to have a couple of the guard at the entrance of the church.
Surely it's not becoming of the bride to be gangbanged in a church entrance on the day of her wedding?



If a bus comes along, just smack the horses to make them go quicker and break into double time. Problem solved.

Some people have no lateral thought.
 
#9
chrisg46 said:
The bride is a bit of alright, but she is an only child. And is very faithful.

And my view is similar to MSR's. If it was down a busy main road for ahlf a mile then indeed would be a bit silly, but i dont see this one being a major issue (its no more than 150m). i just dont know if permission needs obtaining.
Won't she throw a tantrum when Billy Smart's Circus comes tick-tocking down the road, wearing illfitting uniforms?
 
#10
spaz said:
chrisg46 said:
The bride is a bit of alright, but she is an only child. And is very faithful.

And my view is similar to MSR's. If it was down a busy main road for ahlf a mile then indeed would be a bit silly, but i dont see this one being a major issue (its no more than 150m). i just dont know if permission needs obtaining.
Won't she throw a tantrum when Billy Smart's Circus comes tick-tocking down the road, wearing illfitting uniforms?
Spaz you old dog! I didn't realise it was your unit doing the guard!
 
#12
chrisg46 said:
I have been charged with organising the Honour Guard for my mates coming wedding in the summer. Between them, they have decided that they want the guard to consist of around 8 pers, with rifles. This is not an issue, i know what needs to be done for this (letter to CO to get permission, letter to police etc to advise). The TAC is about 150 metres down the road from the church so that works out nicely, just need to get someone to open the armoury to take the rifles out then back in again.

However...

The bride is due to arrive via Horse and carriage, and has had the idea of having the guard march alongside as an escort stylee type thing. So i am now wondering if anything needs doing regarding having what might constitute a small parade marching down the road next to a horse and carriage.
As mentioned the church is just down the road from the TAC, and it is not a through road as such, as it is a bus route, so negligible number of cars to go up and down. However, it is one of the principal bus routes going in and out of town, of the proverbial "wait for ages for a bus, then half a dozen come along at once" variety. If the escort occurs during one of these gaps there will be no problems, but....

At most, the disruption would probably only last a couple of minutes, and i think be hardly noticed. However, are there any hoops i need to jump through to make this happen withoput anyone getting arrested/fined etc?
Sensible answer:

Just have the horse and cart arrive at the armoury (previously consecrated and endorsed as a place of marriage obviously) and then the honour guard can present arms and all that type of stuff in the cage without going through all the hassle of asking the CO/CivPol for permission they can then mark time for 150 metres worth and all dismiss to the TA centre mess for a damn good knees up....... simple.


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#14
You might care to run this past Plod.

Blokes with gats holding up traffic and all that.
 
#15
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I think you'd have to run it past SO2/3 G2 at your Regional Brigade HQ. Once he's finished rolling about laughing you will almost certainly be given a polite "no".

Believe me having had responsibility for handling such requests in my dim & distant past you are highly unlikely to gain approval for such a thing if weapons are involved - organising an official homecoming parade was difficult enough. In my experience one does not just write to the Police to advise them & I'd be surprised if your CO would/could authorise such a thing without reference to Bde.

Besides, standard form is for the guard of honour to form up outside the church & make a sword arch.

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BuggerAll

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#17
Whether its a cunning plan or not I'm not prepared to comment on, but presumably they are going to march from the TAC to the Kirk anyway so doing so instep with the donkey and trap would probably not make any difference.

The wise advise from on here was run it through the chain of command. If they approve crack on, if not switch to plan Bravo. You might also ask the advice of the Adj or RSM - ceremonial is their thing. Or even telephone the the local GSM - the worst he can do is slam the phone down on you.

The current fashion is for doing things in uniform as much as possible provided its appropriate and provided you get it right.
 
#19
Has she won a VC or something?
 
#20
I think you may be allowed to borrow the ash poles. Been a guard of honour a few times and never known anyone have weapons. Still need permission from the OC.
 

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