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Hong Kong Tailors? Any cop or just a Chogey with a sewing machine?

#1
I realise this isn't military clothing but couldn't find a forum for civvies (I know most of the posters are though!)

I might need to get a couple of suits for work and want something a bit smarter than Burtons or Man at C&A.

However, I can't run to Saville Row and Banker's handmedowns wouldn't fit (skinny twat that he is).

So, anyone used one of these Chogies who rock up to the Holiday Inn , measure you then get some 11yr old Vietnamese refugee to knock up the suit in Hong Kong and UPS it to your door?

If so, what was the quality like? What was the fit like? Was it as good value for money as they'd have you to believe?

Or, will I end up looking like Norman Wisdom in his old man's suit?
 
#8
Lewin's are tie makers who've expended (Freudian typo - I meant expanded!) into the massed market to satisfy Chav's. As far as shirts and suits go they are crap!


MM, the thread that you want to trawl is this one:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/officers/14176-dapper-clothing-etc.html

There are very mixed views about the travelling Honkers guys, generally tending towards the negative.

Sub £400 I'd go for an off the peg tailored to fit from Copperfield (Moorgate). I'm not up to date with the current M2M/Bespoke market but Sandbanks will be; drop him a PM!
 
#10
Have you tried Hornets in Kensington? I have had 4-5 2nd hand suits out of there and, for the cost, they are superb!

Work a look but be prepared to spend some time searching and trying on! And take cash, you'll get a discount.
 
#11
Hong Kong regulars will remember the Chunking Mansions - it's still there, btw.

Avoid "Mr Chan" (they're all called 'Mr Chan' even if they're obviously Pakistanis). Chan'll knock you up a suit in 30mins and when you unwrap the parcel, it will be made of pages from the South China Morning Post, licked into shape by male prostitutes.

My advice? Go to Marcos and Spensorius.

Most people who buy 'suits' in Honkers end up with the sort of safari outfit that Keith Floyd (one of my heroes) used to sport.
 
#12
I can happily recommend William Cheng & Sons, 8th Floor, Han Hing Mansion, 38 Hankow Road, Kowloon. I've been using them for 14 years - excellent tailors.
 
#14
Chunking Mansions wow that brings back Memories. We used to go there to a dodgy Triad outfit on the 3rd floor with an indoor Waterfall & Koi Carp pond to get our rip off watches. A few Jackie Chan lookalikes always hovered about. We were told never to go there unless we were in a party of three or more. Got myself a good Rolex copy that worked well for years and my Girlfriend at the time a nice Gucci watch with a light tan Calfskin strap. She had Verdigris & a green tinge to her wrist within 4 days.
 
#15
Lewin's were tie makers who've expended (Freudian typo - I meant expanded!) into the massed market to satisfy Chav's. As far as shirts and suits go they are crap!


MM, the thread that you want to trawl is this one:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/officers/14176-dapper-clothing-etc.html

There are very mixed views about the travelling Honkers guys, generally tending towards the negative.

Sub £400 I'd go for an off the peg tailored to fit from Copperfield (Moorgate). I'm not up to date with the current M2M/Bespoke market but Sandbanks will be; drop him a PM!
Sadly true about Lewins, they were the only shop where one could get colonial forces' silk ties and their Brigade ties were the best.
Since then, they've been bought out a number of times and followed the Pinks route.
Their suits are evidently a new edition, when I was last in Blighty their shirts were clearly going the way of Pinks.

Here in Thailand, like Honkers, the suit makers are two-a-baht and pretty shoddy.
One establishment much frequented by visiting US lawmakers [George Bush Snr's card is in the changing room], military & LEOs has no wish to put proper buttoned cuffs let-alone turn-ups or braces' buttons.
Their clientelle don't know and they can't be bothered.
They charge £250 for a suit that you can buy better off-the-pegg at M&S.
The one place that does at least know about proper tailoring in BKK and used by HM the King of Thailand, charges around £2000 for a suit!
Mind you the wool they use out in the tropics is all lightweight and may not be what you want.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
#16
Wait for the sales and buy something decent off the peg. I have never used Copperfields, but I have an OTP Ede and Ravenscroft which has worn well - a M2M from them is probably one of the best fitting suits I have had in years. For my money, avoid OTP from Roderick Charles - Sandbanks has posted in the past that they ship in lower quality suits just for the sales, and it certainly shows. They wear quickly and shine up very fast.

I would not trust my money to Raja or his ilk - I like to be sure that the cloth I select is the one that the suit is actually made up from, and be able to check the fit without the hassle of posting to and from the far east.
 

TheIronDuke

ADC
Book Reviewer
#17
but couldn't find a forum for civvies
Hello sailor. New in town?

Jesus. When Bad CO invited me here to be his life partner and lend a bit of class to the job, I never expected I should actually have to do anything.

Right, snap to and listen.

Your Hong Kong / Bangkok / Kuala Lumpa tailors are relics of a bygone era. A bit like big parks of tanks in Germany but without Tankies shitting in holes in the woods. Because back in the cold war era your choices were 1) Saville Row. Which you cannot afford or you would not be asking the question. 2) C&A and other places poor people like you shop. 3) Honk Kong Indian tailors.

The world has moved on. We no longer have Tankies in Germany and you can buy a better suit off the peg in Tesco that you can for $200 in Hong Kong.

This is because suits are designed in Shorditch by gay people on computers. The files are sent to China where CAD-CAM type machines make them. Then they are sent to Primark, Tesco and other retail outlets. You can buy the jacket and trousers separately which means you get a good fit for between £50 and £120.

Personally I stick to my chap in Saville Row. Old Avi running his soft hand up my inside leg and asking "Which side does Sir dress?" Takes me right back to childhood hard-ons.
 
#18
I would not trust my money to Raja or his ilk - I like to be sure that the cloth I select is the one that the suit is actually made up from, and be able to check the fit without the hassle of posting to and from the far east.
As I discovered to my cost getting suits run up in Seoul. The first was a beaut & I wear it to this day, but the rest (all ordered once I had checked the quality of the first & sent back to the UK after I finished working in Korea) need to be buffed up with wire wool rather than being sponged & pressed when the need a clean. Still, they're handy if anyone throws a Gangsters party...
 
#19
They wear quickly and shine up very fast.
That's only because your bum spends so much time polishing them on the benches!!

TBH the only suit that I've got from RC is a linen one, which only gets light use. I think that you're probably right about their stuff for day to day wear though.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
#20
I have had a M2M from them in the past, and it was pretty good to be honest (and know many people that still use them for that). It is their sale OTP ones that are definately third rate.

As for my arse shining up the suits - perish the thought. It is the elbows from all that time slumped over the desk sleeping that does it!
 

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